ptatc

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 1, 2008 -> 04:47 PM) I think if we acquire Bailey we’ll have enough pitching depth to make any Vasquez deal be about acquiring young OF talent rather than more young arms. you can never have enough young pitching. Any deal should revolve around acquiring mlb or near mlb pitching with up the middle players as the secondary piece

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 1, 2008 -> 11:01 AM) Someone tell me why/how Brian Anderson would be a BETTER leadoff hitter than Taveras? How we will magically acquire Figgins or Roberts without giving up any "core" players, or sign Orlando Hudson for 4-5 years without blocking Beckham's path to the major leagues? I've seen one poster suggest Chris Getz be our leadoff hitter because where you bat in the line-up isn't statistically significant. Does anyone else have a better solution than Owens or Alexei "Soriano" Ramirez, whose OBP will probably be lower than Taveras'? Maybe Beckham moves to third? I don't think the organization has decided where he will play. He played SS in the brief minors stint. He played 2B in the AFL because it's where they had an opening for a late addition player. My guess is they play him at SS in AA next year and make a decision after a full year in the minors.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 26, 2008 -> 07:07 PM) What I don't understand is if a baseball player uses steroids he's marked for life and many are just shunned. If you get caught juicing in the NFL, its a 4 week vacation, and then back to normal. Fans expect the football players to be mean nasty and help them win their bets or football pools. Also there are no sacred records like the HR record in football. Baseball is supposed to be for the normal people, has the sacred records and is difficult to bet on.

If you've ever done any shooting and been to the site, you would know it would take a great shooter to hit JFK from that vantage point while he was moving down range. LHO was at best a good shot from his Military records. There are two choices: 1) Multiple shooters, 2) It was the lucky shot of the century.

QUOTE (CWSOX45 @ Nov 21, 2008 -> 04:17 PM) That's not necessarily a bad thing. Heilman can be one of the best relievers in the game. In 2006 he was downright filthy. If we get Heilman in this deal I love this even more. He makes his home in Chicago, and is an Indiana native. Some players just aren't meant to play in New York, Heilman may be one of them. The Mets haven't been able to figure out what is wrong with Heilman, which to me just screams that the man needs a change of scenery and a fresh start. However, he wants out of NY because he wants to be a starter. I wouldn't trade for him if you plan on putting him in the pen.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 21, 2008 -> 03:51 PM) Orlando Hudson is another FA possibility, but it might take a bit of time because there is no way the Sox are going to give him the 5/50 he's asking for. I've been saying all along, this is the guy KW will sign.

QUOTE (Texsox @ Nov 21, 2008 -> 03:48 PM) Manny on a three year deal would be interesting and I'd be down with that. Manny on his last contract, I'm not. Matter of fact, I'd love to have Manny on his next to last contract. I just doubt he will sign less than a 5 and more likely a 6. manny will never ever be on the White Sox. If Guillen had a problem with anderson and Swisher's attitudes, what do you think he will say a bout Manny. You can dream all you want but Manny will never be on this team.

I think the money is being saved to make a run at Orlando Hudson. A 2B guy that will bring defense and a leadoff hitter. You can then go with fields at third and look for a CF or give it to defense and Anderson.

QUOTE (That funky motion @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 07:57 PM) Wow, I thought all MLB players have ins. The player's have normal worker's compensation insurance, depending on the State Law. The other option is to have your own insurance, most do as well. the discussion here is whether the Club has insurance to pay for the players contrct in case of injury. Most teams carry insurance to cover at least a portion of the the higher contracts. With Contreras' age and relatively inexpensive contract it may have been cost prohibitive. On a side note, I just picked up an authentic, autographed Contreras jersey at a benefit silent auction for $130.00, so I'm hoping he returns.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 31, 2008 -> 04:36 PM) I'm kind of scared about Lexi at ss as well. As mediocre as OC was and that stupid blowup in the playoffs which accomplished nothing, it was pretty comforting to see a ball hit to OC and realize it was going to be an out. Normally ... I realize he kicked some, but he was a pretty good ss. Lexi like fathom said was kind of a loose cannon at times even at 2B. I wish we'd sign Renteria and give him a try and keep Lexi put at 2B. Anybody think the problems Alexei had were due to the fact that he was playing a new position, in a new league, in a new country. I think he played pretty well considering all of the adjustments he had to make. I have no doubt that if he was left at 2B to learn he would be a very good defensive 2B and not have the inconsistent season like he did this year.

Not until Marquette goes back to the Warriors

QUOTE (logic101 @ Oct 26, 2008 -> 12:38 AM) http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?...name=grey_jason • White Sox outfielder Stefan Gartrell suffered a third-degree shoulder separation when he hit the ground diving for a fly ball, and though it is expected that his AFL season is over, he has not been ruled out to return sometime in November. I hope (and assume) it's his non-throwing shoulder. This is a serious injury and will definitely effect his throwing if it is his throwing shoulder. Just raising his arm above his head will be uncomfortable from now on.

QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Oct 25, 2008 -> 02:58 PM) So why did the A's trade him? Just saying as I don't think these are valid reasons why not to trade him. If the O's want him for Roberts, I'd do it. We'd get a true leadoff hitter with power and he'll be a Type A free agent after the year. O's have been looking for a first baseman for a few years now and I can't see them land Teixeria To get young pitching.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Oct 15, 2008 -> 02:39 PM) Exactly. He's of no concern to the White Sox or AL Central unless he finds some crazy ass stuff that the tests don't detect. I can't think of a more obvious juicer in the sport when you consider the dropoff he's had since the testing was beefed up. There still isn't a reliable test for HGH. TCQ had a shoulder problem and looked what happened to his numbers after surgery. It will be interesting to see what Hafner's numbers are next year.

QUOTE (sircaffey @ Oct 16, 2008 -> 01:32 PM) Well, was anyone right on Floyd? Tough to see this one coming. Even within the Sox organization, I doubt many (if any) believed he'd win 17 games. I've always been a fan. I remember a long discussion with someone who said they knew scouts who saw him in the minors and said he didn't have the stuff to get people out. Friends of mine in the minors said he had the stuff just couldn't put it together. Although I didn't think he would win 17, I knew he could be a good starter. He needs to prove he can do it again and become a consistent pitcher that is what he lacked before.

QUOTE (scenario @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 07:26 PM) I think he's revising history. I've never talked to anyone from Minneapolis (and I spend alot of time up there) who said AJ was a problem on his own team. Look at him on the Sox. Leopards don't change their spots. Has he been a cancer here? No. Was there some life changing event that caused him to take on a different personality all of a sudden? No. Bottom line... the 'AJ is a problem' stories are 10% truth - 90% hype. ptatc... Would you mind telling the story? I think it should be told in this thread and your insights about it would be greatly appreciated. He was doing a pre-game type work out routine (stretching I believe) with the assistance of a person on the medical staff. He was talking to another player and told a joke and said "it was funny kind of like this" when he hit the guy in the nads while laughing. The guy didn't think that he tried to hit him hard but when AJ did it he didn't apologize or even acknowledge that he did hit the guy hard. Like I said I don't think it was mean spirited just an a**hole thinking it was funny to do this to another person.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 5, 2008 -> 06:11 PM) I think he meant "string," unless he's referring to the double helix and RNA/DNA strands. It has seemed like every ball we've hit this series, we've never once gone from 1st to 3rd or from 2nd to home. Maybe it happened once. Part of this is a function of the ball getting to the outfielders so quickly on turf...the other reason that we're really slow, except for Cabrera, Wise, Ramirez and Uribe (so-so). Or the string theory of physics, where all matter consists of strings as opposed to particles.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Oct 4, 2008 -> 12:23 AM) I heard myself actually saying "we didn't have the internet back then..." a couple of months ago. Also I was telling a guy that just graduated high school about the Jordan dynasty, and how sweet it was to watch Frank Thomas as opposed to just popping your eyes out at his stats. None of that really even seems like that long ago to me, but I guess it is. I'm only 26 btw. Anyone else here tend to use the Berlin Wall/end of the Cold War as a point of reference? I was on the first U-bahn train that went from West Berlin to East Berlin. I use the Berlin Wall as a point of reference frequently.

QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 12:33 PM) Has that ever been proven? I have heard about it, but I thought I read that nobody ever proved it happened It did happen. I know the guy involved. It wasn't as blatant or mean spirited as portrayed by the rumors. However, I think that may make it worse, AJ thought it was funny.

QUOTE (Soxy @ Oct 2, 2008 -> 09:10 AM) What's your research area? I teach in a doctoral Of Physical Therapy program. My research area is biomechanics, mostly of the overhead athlete and running.

when one of my doctoral student was wearing a "White Sox Winning Ugly 1983" T-shirt and I told her it was a great T-shirt and asked if it was original. She laughed and said she wasn't born until 1986. I've felt old but this actually put a number on it. I have doctoral students who were born after I graduated from undergraduate school.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Oct 2, 2008 -> 06:38 AM) I think if Javy has nothing on the ball once again, and it looks like another long day is shaping up, then we pull Javy fast and put in Floyd and have him take Javy's spot in the rotation for game 4. If Javy actually shows up with something on the ball, then I see Floyd just being a safety net for the rest of the pitchers in this series, and Javy getting the nod once again on game 4. Floyd won't come into the game early. richard will be the first guy in if it's before the 5th inning. Floyd won't work more than an innig since he just worked on monday and he will be the starter for game 4 to clinch it for us.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 01:40 PM) Hey!!!! No smoking and drinking while that achilles tendon is healing!!!! He is 75 years old and doesn't heal like he used to!!!!!

QUOTE (scenario @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 09:44 PM) I've spent some time researching this a couple of years ago because I was trying to figure out where all the AJ hate seemed to be coming from. I posted questions about it on a couple of Twins boards and talked to several people I know who live in Minneapolis. (I spend about 2 months a year in Minneapolis on business working with a big financial services firm downtown... right near the dome.) It seems like the issue with SF actually started when AJ was with Minnesota... and the Twins were playing the A's in the 2002 playoffs. The series had been contentious... knockdowns... a couple of near fights, etc.... Then in the deciding game (which the Twins won) AJ hit a homerun and when he crossed home he stopped looked the A's catcher right in the eyes and yelled BOO-YAH... and almost incited a riot. (Minnesota fans enjoyed this btw.) But it pretty much branded him as public enemy #1 in the bay area. Then, he got traded out there and it seems that people in the bay area were slow to warm up to him. And he by no means was blameless. He had significant run-ins with a couple of Giant's pitchers, particularly Brett Tomko, and called out the staff publicly for their lack of focus and heart. Also, the Giants management side of the story is that they gave AJ a couple of chances to repair the damage to his image in the community and he was not really cooperative... and things got worse... and worse with both the team and the fans. So... it was a bad marriage that ended in an ugly divorce and the 'AJ as a cancer' story had begun. He also had the incident with the medical staff in SF. This did not endear him to the support personnel either. Also as I've said before they boo him probably because they've met him.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Sep 24, 2008 -> 12:46 PM) I hate to see the RC go as much as anyone. I prayed to him. I loved him. I made him a part of everything I did. But his time is passed. The age of the Dweezy is upon us, and we must conform. The Dweezy shall deliver us. If we truly need someone to pray to and deliver us, we should have it from someone from the great beyond. How about the Rally Calderon. His divine influence from above will help. The Rally Dweezy is the earthy body he uses. (OK, so I'm really bored giving my students an exam).