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I truly cannot think of words to describe this one.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Jan 11, 2007 -> 10:09 PM) Care to be specific? Are you joking? Toni Kukoc made more money than Scottie did during the title years. He was most definitely underpaid. A smart GM would know when he has it good. There's plenty of time to suck and rebuild. What the Bulls had was beyond special. He should've done everything he could to keep it going. That's just my opinion. Krause wanted to do it without Michael. He wanted to do it without Phil. He made a complete fool out of himself. Pippen made alot of money early in that 7 year contract that he didn't deserve and the Bulls took a risk due to the back surgery, so yes over the length of that contract due to the uncertainty of his career I believe Pippen got the better of the deal. Don't just look at the back end of the contract when many other players made more than him look at the entire contract. The only thing that hit the press was the lower salary figures at the end when the Bulls wouldn't re-negotiate the contract. Besides even if this wassn't the case Pippen signed the long term deal so why should you blame the Bulls? As for being more specific Jackson went to JR and said he wouldn't be just the coach anymore and wanted total control of the team and Krause's job. JR said no he wanted to keep the GM and coach separate and Phil Jackson threw a hissy fit and said he would leave then. I believe JR's reply was "don't let the door hit you in the rear on the way out"

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Jan 11, 2007 -> 07:52 PM) Jerry Krause said before the last championship season that there's no way in hell Phil Jackson would be the coach after that year. He wanted Tim Floyd. And, if IIRC, Tim Floyd was hired as President of Basketball Operations before Phil had even made his decision. You don't think that would piss a normal person off? Let alone a guy that coached 6 titles? JR offering Phil to come back after that was basically damage control. That way they can say "well, we tried to bring him back, but he declined." It should've never came to that anyway. A gm with a brain would've locked Phil up a long time ago. If Phil's back, more than likely Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, ect are all back. Yes, Jordan did cut his hand or whatever. But I don't think he would've missed an entire season. But that point is moot since MJ wasn't gonna play without Phil. Pippen had been underpaid for years, and he was gonna get his money regardless. A smart gm, or atleast a gm that didn't have an agenda, would've done ANYTHING and EVERYTHING possible to keep that team together. Period. I believe we had another two championships left with that group. And he did a lot more than just make some mistakes after everyone left. The mistakes he made were the kinda that set franchises back years. 1: Traded Elton Brand for Tyson Chandler. 2: Traded Ron Artest, Brad Miller and Ron Mercer for Jalen Rose 3: Wasted precious lottery picks on bums like Marcus Fizer and Jamal Crawford. 4: Failed miserably to sign even halfway decent free agents to keep the team competitive. Bulls record from '99 through '03 (Krause's last year): 96-282 That's some historic losing. That overrides anything positive he did, IMO. I'm glad the bum is gone. It's no concidence that we're back to being respectable with him out of the way. Does he even have a job now? Phil Jackson was not going to be the coach because he tried a power play with Krause to get to JR and lost. Phil Jackson while a good coach is a crappy human being he divorced his wife and dated the owner of the LA lakers daughter to get the GM fired there. He won that powerplay. Pippen wasn't underpaid, if fact he was over paid. He signed a long term deal right after back surgery because he wasn't sure how long he could play. The contract was front loaded in case he needed to retire. JR allowed him to do this while advising him against it. It looked like he was underpaid at the end because of the upfront money which was a big risk to the Bulls at the time. A smart GM knows when his team is getting old and tries to rebuild when he can so you don't go through awful seasons. Krause tried this and did awful and was fired. No historic losing makes up for 6 championships maybe only one but for that run they had it was remarkable. I don't even like basketball but can appreciate what type of historic team that was.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 11, 2007 -> 05:54 PM) Please get started. There arent many gm's out there in any sport that has brought 6 championships to a city. So please continue. I agree. He built the championships with one plan then when the team got old and his coach tried a powerplay to get his job he tried another plan with youth and failed. He got praised, for good reason, for the first plan which won unheard of championships. He got fired deservedly so for the second one which failed. What is there to hate? 6 rings or getting fired for failing?

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jan 11, 2007 -> 05:30 PM) Are they illegal outside of MLB? Honest question. They aren't as 'harmful' as steroids, are they? I've always thought of amphetamines as (more or less) energy type things that, prior to last season, most players took. They are illegal. The are potentially more harmful than steroids especially in the short term. Abusing them leads to cardiac problems such as hypertension and pulomary difficulties. They can speed up the heartbeat to a point of permanent damage or cardiac arrest. they have been used extensively in sports especially baseball since the 60's. In the clubhouse there would be coffee labelled leaded and unleaded to make outsiders think caffienated and decaffinated but it was actually the drugs. They have also been banned as stimulants in international competition and amatuer sports for years.

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Jan 11, 2007 -> 03:36 PM) Steroids aren't illegal when prescribed by a doctor. Eye surgery performed by non doctors is. If Bonds got a prescription, t'aint illegal. And wasn't really against the rules either until recently. But it is unethical for a physician to prescribe them to a healthy person and is thus illegal for the physician. By the way Bonds' 'personal" physician has had his license suspended twice for unethical behaviour so maybe he did prescribe some. Once the Feds get their hands on the data from the first drug test where 100 MLB players failed a whole new chapter in this saga will open. QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jan 11, 2007 -> 05:07 PM) ...that he took amphetamines. Which, IIRC (correct me if I'm wrong), is like taking a suped-up Red Bull. Who had Bonds fought with in his career, players wise? I know about the Jeff Kent incident -- which, BTW, was likely as much Kent's fault as Bonds' -- were there any other well-documented 'fights'? I know when AJ was asked about it once, he said he didn't have much of a problem with Barry... And, from what I've seen of the San Fran media, they ask the same questions day after day after day, despite the fact that they know the answer they're going to get. They're looking for their question to be the spark that sets him off so they have a nice little column the next day (or week). I'm not trying to paint him as an angel, but he's far from the only "asshole" in the sports community. Which are illegal. Bonds is pretty much universally disliked by everyone who comes in contact with him unless you can do something for him and even then he's tough to deal with. He's not in the Sheffield category but awfully close. He is just not a good human being. But he is one hell of a ballplayer. I think he is probably the best all around ballplayer I have ever seen before the steroids. It's a shame what he has done to himself and when trying to leave his mark on baseball he probably has done so but in a negative manner.

The best was the 2 day game in 84 when the Sox beat the Brewers the next morning. I was there for all of the innings. For the worst I second the closing of Old Comiskey. It needed to happen due to the condition of the stadium but it still sucked.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 5, 2007 -> 12:25 PM) Good start. Looks like they, for the most part, mean business. The earmark thing, though, is kind of weak. Most lawmakers won't care about being exposed for the pork, in fact that will likely only boost local support for them. What they NEED to do is what I thought some of the Dems talked about, which is plain old STOPPING all earmarks for now, until a unified, balanced system can be put in place (like, as I stated then, the system the City Council of Chicago uses). The problem with this is that with the crappy support universities get in this state from our beloved Gov. we depend on earmarks for funding. The system is flawed but if it stops the universities in this state are going to be in worse shape than they are now. I'm sure this is only one example where this is true but it's one I am personally involved in.

and I'll light a candle.

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QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Dec 21, 2006 -> 03:16 PM) She is pretty, but I dont know that "Rockets" is a good description. Anna Benson is surely deserving of that nickname, but Mrs Dice-K seems like a pretty woman, thats about all. Hard to believe that Dice-K got suspended for having his car towed from the front of her place. How can a team dictate who you date? Code of Conduct is a whole different concept in Japan. Ask anyone who has spent significant time there involved in sports.

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Dec 21, 2006 -> 01:11 PM) Totally agree. Thanks for helping me make my point. I'm certainly not qualified to be a GM...I leave that to the 30 presently doing it. And I think that Kenny has moved up to near the top of the list of best GMs in the game. Maybe not top 5, but pretty close. He doesn't make as many knee-jerk trades anymore and we shouldn't have knee-jerk reactions when a roster move is made. I hope that all of these moves work out and we win another World Series...just so I can see the haters eat their hats. But that's just the optomistic crazed White Sox fanatic in me. It's always easier to be the pessimist and rip every move. What's more likely we make the playoffs or we don't? There are so many factors which which go into a succeessfull season including luck. This especially true in the AL Central with 3-4 very good teams. The pessimists always have the advantage. Personally I'm an old realist who thinks we'll be better and that gives us a pretty good chance. After years in sports that is really all you can hope for.

I'm still in for my weekend package.

QUOTE(philadelphia sox fan @ Dec 8, 2006 -> 05:24 PM) There are two days I look forward to each and every year. Opening Day and the day Blue Mountian in PA opens. Today was the day for Blue and I took full advantage. I snowboarded down that hill at least 30 times (It's a small hill without all the trails up and running) and it was just a good day. I hit the snow a few times getting my legs back under me but by the end of the day, I was looking like the flyin tomato. Happy Snow Season Everyone I'm Green with envy. I can't wait to hit the slopes. I agree ti's the second best day of the year.

QUOTE(Soxy @ Dec 12, 2006 -> 11:30 AM) Good luck! Now that I have to teach and grade, I can honestly say that I'd rather take the finals than give them and grade them. I'm done now too!!!! This board is great for procrastination!!!!! I spend more time on here during finals than during games. QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Dec 13, 2006 -> 07:43 PM) Marquette. Theo 1. Required core course. I honestly don't know how much I learned this semester. My professor is a real bright guy, but he's Russian and carries a real deep accent, and sometimes his writing on the board is hard to decipher. That being said, he's quite funny, he pokes fun at his heritage all the time, always (jokingly) comparing himself to the 'bad guys' in the James Bond films. That said, I got a 100% on the mid-term exam despite the fact that I was really worried about it. I'll gladly take repeated results on this next one. the guy I had for that course was a missionary just back from 15 years in Korea. He started the course by saying "At the center of all religions is catholism as it means universal, all of the rest are out on this spiral away from the truth" It was a painful semester.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 15, 2006 -> 01:14 PM) I can't speak for anyone else but the thing that bothers me is the KW quotes and the Cowley story that suggest/say that the Sox won't resign any of our pitchers (ie Buehrle) for being too expensive. That is cheap. I think it has more to do with the length o f the contracts not so much the money he has a problem with. Remember JR approved a market breaking deal with Albert Belle. He got burned with long deals to Britt burns, Richard Dotson and Floyd Bannister soon after his group bought the team. They are smart not to give long term deals to pitchers they rarely work out. The trick is to keep young, pitcher rotating through the team to keep winning. We'll see if KW can do it but I like the philosophy (of course communism is good in theory also why does everyone need to be so greedy.)

QUOTE(Texsox @ Dec 12, 2006 -> 03:55 PM) Again, if the team doesn't want to spend that much, they don't have to. A GM could just as easy say, "Wow, the Cardinals are offering that? Congratulations, that seems like a great deal for your player". What is Boras going to do when they walk away? Oh wait, maybe we're the only ones that have figured out that Boras may be lying about the comp offers, and the other GMs are stupid? This is true. The owners are going to pay what they think they can afford. They can always turn down offers. Owners are doing this to themselves. But that doesn't make his tactics right. Boras is the best at doing this. However that doesn't make the practice ethical. He is doing nothing illegal because lying is not against the law (unless it's under oath see Bill Clinton and Barry Bonds). He may be immoral which is why many teams do not draft his players or negotiate with him. If your philosophy is Maceveelian and "the ends justifies the means" you most likely agree with his tactics. this is where "he is a scumbag" comes from and I happen to fall in line with that idea.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 01:04 PM) They already quoted a guy here about Clemens being on roids, why wouldn't they? Not that it means much but I've heard more rumors of Clemens being on steriods than Gagne. Probably more because he is higher profile and not the most pleasant person to deal with, though.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 05:54 PM) I think Tank may already be on probation for weapons charges. He may be in a lot of trouble. If your neighbor was charged with it, you would probably feel differently. Tank appears to be a great football player, but a bad guy. That was the rap coming out of school. First round talent, less than stellar person.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 04:53 PM) Even if they sign Zito, their rotation still looks very weak on paper. Zito, Glavine, El Duque, then you've got Oliver Perez, John Maine, and Pelfrey/Humber for the last 2 spots, with maybe a Pedro sighting someday. That might be good enough to get to the playoffs in the NL, but it still looks like it could use a righty who can give you 200 innings. I agree it looks weak. I just think after spending the money on Zito that they would make another "blockbuster" move. I would think it would be a smaller scale move.

If they sign Zito it won't matter. Let's hope someone else beats them.

He wasn't a huge sports fan growing up. Actually other than baseball and a little basketball didn't play sports. He is a really great guy but not the toughest person in the world. His performance in the high school state baseball tournament in 1991 was legendary. If memory serves correctly he made only one out in the entire tournament. He either walked or got a hit in all the others ABs. I was a trainer for T-wood and he was a patient of mine after he fx his wrist in a collision at first base with Todd Hundley while playing for the Expos.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 07:58 AM) Good point. If those Phillie fans had been around here last summer, they wouldn't be so happy about acquiring Garcia, either. I agree. Especially with the article from Phillie above. If Floyd's curveball has gone from 12-6 to 10-5 as stated, that is purely mechanical. What he is doing is dropping his arm angle to change the break on the ball. This reinforces the opinion that a mechanical alteration will benefit him. Sorry, I referenced the wrong statement. This was in reply to the idea that Floyd will be siting next to Cooper.

QUOTE(knightni @ Dec 12, 2006 -> 10:31 AM) Joan Jett was on Last Call last night. Still sounds pretty good. Go-gos and Bangles are guilty pleasures as are the Runaways. As long as it was with Joan Jett AND Lita Ford!!!!

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Dec 13, 2006 -> 03:08 PM) I knew he needed an MRI. Thank God he kept pitching hurt for the most of the year, so we couldnt of stretched out Bmac. He could of taken a rest, got stronger. MRIs rarely show anything accurrate in the shoulder. Most people in the medical profession say that MRI stans for More Radiographical Income. With pitchers wear and tear they may give aclue but are not significant. This is true for MR imaging in general. There was a study done where 300 people without back pain were given MRIs. About 80% came back positive for herniated discs. So either eveyone has herniated discs that are asymptomatic or MRIs are largely inaccurrate. Just keep that in mind when you read these items in the paper. This is one reason why initial "out much time they will miss" estimates are frequently wrong.