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QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Oct 11, 2006 -> 08:11 PM) ^That's if you abuse steriods and do other stuff while taking them. Canseco said in his book he never did anything else like alcohol or weed or any other drugs. He also said that he didn't abuse them. Spoken like a man who is addicted to them. Most normal people don't go tearing up bars and getting sued for it. See recent behavoir of Canseco twins. Also look at all of the trouble Jose had with the law because of domestic violence and aggressive behavior. It's got nothing to do with taking other things. Alcohol and pot do not destroy the body like anabolic steroids. Look in the medical literature don't believe a guy who wrote a book because he was pissed at baseball. It's all there. Anabolic steriods will destroy the body. It's like the smoker who says "I'm 90 years old and I've smoked all my life" as he is using bottled oxygen and a walker. It may not destroy everyone at the same rate but it will get you.

QUOTE(Steff @ Oct 11, 2006 -> 05:37 PM) Wow. Is your wife ok? I imagine seeing that left her pretty shook up. She's fine thanks for asking. She was down the block walking to her hotel. She heard the noise of the plane and watched it hit. She was pretty shook up as she had many co-workers die on 9/11. She quickly realized it was a small plane and said that there was a very quick response by EMS and law enforcement. She said it was a surreal experience and is still a little shaken.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Oct 11, 2006 -> 03:36 PM) Magic is a simple explanation. If you are a millionaire, HIV is no longer a death sentence. They have drugs that will combat the disease and allow you to live a relatively healthy normal life. Where as Arnold used steriods and has so far suffered few if any side effects. You see everyone point to WWE people as examples of steriods killing them off, but you rarely see them delve into the fact that many of these wrestlers had other addictions besides steriods which played major roles in their death. The result is, fathom's "when they start dropping dead at 40-50" is nothing more than unsubstantiated myths. Just like the first Ultimate Warrior died, just like every other unproven myth. I doubt that Bonds dies any earlier than most of the other players of his age group. What then? This is simply not true. Arnold may not die as early as some but the steriod abuse will catch up to him. The retired NFL players are the prime example. One of my favorite teams the Steelers were the first known abusers. Look at the results. There have all sorts of stories of them going nuts (Holmes and his turnpike shooting spree. mike webster and the driving spree), needing organ transplants (steve courson) attempted suicides (tunch Ilkin). Streiods abuse as with any other abuse will kill you. People with money can "buy" time in many cases with experimental thing that most people cannot afford, but don't let that fool you, the steroids will either kill your liver (ben johnson), enlarge your heart (steve courson) or give you a brain tumor (lyle alzado). It will get you in one way or another.

for the family. My wife is in NY and watched it happen. She said the plane definitely looked like it was having problems prior to the hit.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Oct 4, 2006 -> 06:55 PM) The Angels spent a lot of cash bringing Cabrera to Anaheim. If they thought Figgins could play short, they would have spent that money on something else. I know Uribe is usually frustrating to watch hit. But he was 8th or 9th in RBI by a SS in MLB this year, and only 2 or 3 SS hit more homers. I would take my chances with him defensively over most. The last 2 plays he made in the WS last year were incredible. Omar Vizquel couldn't have thrown Palmiero out, his arm isn't strong enough. For my money, unless the Sox were to bring in Tejada or ARod to play SS, or TB insisted on Uribe as a part of a package for Crawford, and the Sox were going to sign Gonzalez, the Sox are much better off leaving Uribe at SS. Experimenting with someone as a SS is only going to make your pitching staff worse. We saw this season, White Sox pitchers need all the help they can get. They also have a hard time pitching over defensive miscues. Amen. The voice of reason.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 3, 2006 -> 07:03 AM) 5 years $50 million is a good place to start. Confucious say "beware of power hitting 3B with back problem when offering long term deal." The stress on a good defensive player's back is tremendous. A long term may be unwise if he doesn't have surgery. The disc could go at anytime then you have a 3-6 month rehab.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Oct 3, 2006 -> 08:27 AM) But then again, how many teams have a "Liriano" type in their system? How many GMs would trade a Liriano, Bonser and Nathan for a catcher. Who you release in a year.

QUOTE(That funky motion @ Oct 2, 2006 -> 07:55 PM) Did'nt Pods have some kind of surgery last year in the off season? Yes, he had his testicles removed (marriage)

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Sep 30, 2006 -> 11:11 AM) Oh boo friggin who. I'm quite sick of hearing about the WBC as an excuse for Freddy. He pitched 7 1/3rd innings over two outings. We're not talking about a guy who threw two complete games in the WBC.WTF, Joaquin Arias? Why the hell do you guys talk about him like he's Brandon Wood? His OBP was under .300 this year IN THE PCL!!!!!! His career minor league OPS is barely over .700. I'd rather hand the starting job over to Pedro Lopez than trade for Arias... It's not a matter of how many innings he pitched there. It's the decreased time off, coupled with beginning the workouts earlier and the stress on the arm. There are only two things which cause a decrease in velocity: being worn down or injury. Both of these change the mechanics of throwing. Since he didn't miss a start I don't think it's injury. Now say what you want about not believing in the pitchers being tired but with the decreased velocity you tell me what the answer is. You may not have the professional baseball experience but lat me tell you they do get tired after a long season and the amount of innings and stress does effect the pitchers that next season. You'll see from my posts early in the season you could tell these guys especially MB and FG were worn down.

I don't believe Soriano will play the outfield for a new team. He will sign where they promise him he can hit more HRs than any other 2B.

From reading the comments in the paper the last few days, it seems we have two guys at 30 and near 30 who have finally realized they are not kids anymore and realize they need to work out appropriately. Hopefully they've learned their respective lessons and will come back strong next year.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Sep 25, 2006 -> 05:15 PM) Its a shame the Sox set the attendance record the year they had a 3rd place team. I wonder how season ticket renewals will go. The waiting list was a good idea, but another year like this one and I think tumbleweeds will be spotted at USCF at least for the April and September games. This is Chicago White Sox. It's the "we aren't coming until you show us something". It doesn't surprise me that after winning last year people finally come to the games. I would think that it's common to have better attendance after you win. Also, the attendenace was artificially inflated by the people who had to buy season tickets in order to get the playoff tickets last year. Remember it's how many tickets are sold not how many are at the ballpark.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Sep 23, 2006 -> 08:38 PM) Chances of Michael Young and Carl Crawford being on different teams next year, not very good. I think the chance of them being on different teams is near 100% I'm not sure if it's Texas and Tampa but they won't be on the same team. You have to have some humor after a season like this.

QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ Sep 23, 2006 -> 05:21 PM) let's see, we've had Sandy Alomar, Jim Thome, Robbie Alomar, Albert Belle, Kenny Lofton and others. Surely there is some really old former Indian who needs cash and would be willing to play left field for us next year. If we're going to get somebody from Arizona, how about .... CHRIS YOUNG??????????? Strikes out too much

QUOTE(shipps @ Sep 17, 2006 -> 09:50 AM) exactly.And they were talking about how the trackstars all of sudden developed narcolepsy,hence needed stimulants to stay awake during a race. The amount that they normally precribe for this problem is far below the banned level. In order for the drug to help a person without the problem is really high. like the female swimmer a couple of years ago who said she tested positive for high levels of testestorone because of her birth control pills. The birth control pillls do contain testosterone but she would need to take 300 pills a day to reach the banned levels. Remember there are a lot of banned substances but it is the level of the substance which is banned. Caffiene is a banned substance for Olympic sports. But the level which is banned equates to 100 cups of coffee a day. Even the olympic sports give waivers. This is basically for saying that be aware they may be some in the system but the level should be far below the banned levels. QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 11:17 AM) Ritalin is a useless drug. I was forced to take it for many years b/c of what I think was a bullcrap daignosis of ADHD it's not useless. It's actually very effective. But it's like the other poster said, it's the most overprescribed drug because the MD uses it as a basket drug instead of getting the correct diagnosis. Even it didn't help you, you were probably just a problem child which didn't need the medical attention.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 11:19 AM) We need some time to rest our guys. We will make another run at it in 07 ^^^^^^^

QUOTE(ILoveThisGame @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 09:40 AM) After the game yesterday on Detroit's Sports report, Konerko stated that throughout his career in Chicago he has never seen this team so banged up. Also stated that this team is really tired right now. Finished his comments by stating that it's not an excuse, but a shorter offseason does take a hit on you. I have been hearing about this for the last 3 weeks. Why would you go on about this when you know the opposing team is listening to your comments? This team over the entire second half has grounded into more double plays and taken less walks than anyone in baseball. They have swung at so many pitches out of the strikezone. Over and over pitchers keep jamming us in and we keep grounding out. Earlier in the season we would take a pitch, wait for the one down the middle and not miss it. They do look tired, but isn't that why they get paid the big bucks. No "greenies" this year.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 11:03 AM) Garcia did not have a crappy first half he had a crappy April, June, July and horrid August. Perhaps I just don't understand why a pitcher would suck for 5/6 of the season then when the season is all but over decide to add a new pitch, something that is appearantly helping him pitch with better success. Why the hell did he wait 5 and a half months to add a new pitch? I don't understand why he's getting so much credit for this when he should have been experimenting with new pitches earlier in the season when he was pitching like s*** and the games actually meant something. Appearantly Freddy Garcia is smarter than I give him credit for, he's managed to pitch like s*** for more than half the season then turn it on when it means nothing, saving his job next year. If he pitches like this in June and pitched now like he did in June the guy would have a one way ticket out of town. My bet is once he realized how tired his arm was from all of the innings he knew the velocity wasn't returning, he decided to change and learn a new pitch. He did not learn to control that pitch overnight. Pitchers just don't do that . He's been working on it on the side and waited until he felt comfortable with it. What bearing does this have on next year . My vote is to trade which ever one brings the most in return. If it's fairly equal Vazquez goes.

You can see that Thomas still cannot run. He has only 9 doubles in over 400 ABs. He is hitting a ton of homers because he needs to. I'm hoping to see him go to the HOF just not with stats from the upcoming weekend.

QUOTE(shoota @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 09:25 PM) With Minnesota playing tomorrow, and the Sox having the day off, I'm excited to see the .5 game differences disappear. I like whole numbers. The OCD is coming through

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 02:20 PM) Pods' basehit was through the left side between the 3B and SS. That's right. Even more players hitting the oppostie way. Although not consistently enough. QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 02:20 PM) Popups don't necessarily tell you where a person was trying to hit the ball. If you're trying to pull a ball and you hit a pitcher's pitch into the air, it may well wind up going anywhere. Especially if the pitcher either gets in on your wrists or off the plate away. True but by the way they where leaning, especially Konerko, I got the sense that they were trying to shoot it the other way.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 01:00 AM) Its real simple. Santana was doing what every pitcher has been doing to us this second half. He was going low and away to our righties. In one inning, we decided to attack that, and we hit the ball up the middle and the other way. Besides that we acted shocked that we were getting feed low and away. Look at Crede with men on against K rod. 94 low and away and you see a pathetic swing. These are guys going up to the dish not having a clue on what the approach is. Unless you have the reach of Vlad you cannot I repeat cannot pull a low and away 94 mph pitch and do too much with it. The fact that our team goes up night after night without an approach for a simple way that people have taken to attack a myopic power hitting team, its either the hitters are retarded or our hitting coach is stubborn. I go with both. When I watched the game last night I saw the opposite. I was thinking why the hell is everyone trying ti flip the ball the opposite way. Kornerko and the other righties were popping out to the first baseman and Gurrero all night. There was no effort to pull the ball. Pods had a base hit up the middle at hit it back to the pitchers twice. Guess it's just a matter of perspective.

QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Sep 10, 2006 -> 08:18 AM) Are you serious?? How can like this guy?? He's a cheater, and he's the biggest dick ever Remember when he broke the record, steroids were not against the rules in baseball. I know they were against the law if not prescribed by a physician but so is cocaine and I haven't seen any one's stats taken away due to cocaine use (Tim Raines, Paul Molitor). And yes he is the biggest dick ever

Beat on the Brat with a baseball bat-Ramones. Anarchy in the UK-Sex Pistol (I want to be an Anarchist!!!!!)

QUOTE(chisox72 @ Sep 2, 2006 -> 08:48 AM) You would think that, but it is Ozzie we are talking about. His fascination with guys who flat out suck, coupled with his blatant mistrust of young players, and his inability to look beyond his "match-ups", give me all the reason in the world to believe that Sweeney will get a spot-start here and there over the rest of this month and that's it. His lineup last night all but guaranteed a loss....and quite frankly, I am tired of "tipping my cap" to the competition. Lets start putting a real f***ing baseball team out there.... that's true. It's not like he trusted a rookie to close out World Series games or anything.