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QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 05:42 PM) Not at all. Let me try to articulate this, troll: You're a smarmy ass 24 year old who thinks he's brighter than everyone else. "Wow, I'm in grad school, aren't I smart?" What you've done since you've come here is try to be your big brother (penis envy, maybe?) and be Mr. Argument. Too bad this board doesn't offer lawyer pay. What exactly is the problem with your lack of interpersonal skills? Do you not have any at all? Are you this much of a colossal prick every time you go somewhere new? Or are your only friends the same type of cynical s*** stirrers who are frustrated with their lot in life? How many posters have you managed to piss off in the course of 3-4 days? Congratulations, you're up to about a dozen. Let me review ... hmmm, I think it was articulated rather well. You're a stain to this board. Go away. However, let me tell you this, if you continue to get in my face I'll be slinging it right back wise ass. Good show old boy!!! The ball is in the other court. (My money is on you)

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:53 PM) If he was plunked, i dont think they would call it a strain. I think it would be called a bruise. Strain sounds to me like he landed on it funny. It's usually from throwing or holding up a swing. I believe he is a lefty so it would be his back arm. Typically you don't get that. It's usually the front arm. Did he do it while in the field?

QUOTE(TheDybber @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 02:45 PM) He's a two (some will say three) time MVP. He's been on this team for 15 years. He was arguably the best hitter of the 90's. I think he has the right to say "I am ready." I know Ozzie doesn't want to hurt the team by not bringing somebody up sooner than they are ready, but only Frank knows if he's ready. What's the difference if he hurts his hip in AAA or with the Sox? Either way, he was going to have to turn on the "jets" and run. He's still swinging well and has 6 days to rest when we go to San Diego and Colorado. He'll be fine. He's definitely NOT Juan Gonzalez. No he does not have that right. He can have input but it isn't just his decision. Anyone who watched him attempt to run knows he is not right. His left foot still hurts enough that he must change his gait to "run too fast." As I've stated many times before this has taken longer than it should so they need to be very careful and not jeopardize his career. Maybe they've all decided this is as good as it's going to get so he may as well try it. But he obviously can't play full speed in the condition his ankle is in.

QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 01:19 PM) Honestly, who else would be interested in getting Chavez if Oakland did dangle him? Out of all of the contending teams this year as of now: AL: Not the Yanks with Pay Rod Not the Bo Sox with Mueller Not the Rangers with Blaylock Not the Angels with Dallas McPherson Not the Os with Mora hitting 0.297 Not the Twinkies with Cuddyer and with limited payroll NL: Not the Cards with Rolen Not the Braves with Chipper Jones Not the Marlins with Lowell Not the Giants with Alfonso hitting 0.328 (and the As would never trade him to Giants, it would hurt them big time with city popularity) Not the Cubs with Aramis Ramirez Not the Padres with Blum hitting 0.296 Not the LA Dodgers with Perez hitting 0.422 Not the Dbacks with Troy Glaus I just do not see anyone else seriously being interested in Chavez, hence we should use the leverage to our advantage. Hopefully, Kenny screws Beane who has to be desperate to trade him to us. there are rumors that the Angels are not happy with MacPherson (except against the Count of course) so that is a possibility. The Sox and the Dodgers are the most likely. Let's not forget the steriods issue. I'm not saying he definiately took them but there are rumors. If we trade top prospects for a guy who will never be the same it could be horrible for the team. KW better do his DD and be SURE Chavez has always been clean and this is only a slump.

QUOTE(robinventura23 @ May 31, 2005 -> 08:05 AM) After an exciting Memorial Day victory, hopefully they can carry the momentum into another victory. Garcia has owned the Angels in his career. I don't think we'll be seeing Big Frank tonight, he may get a rest because of his hip. Let's hope the Sox can end May on a high note. Watching him play, the hip is sore due to his limping from the pain in his foot. He needs to let the hip heal thenstrengthening it because his foot is obviously not 100% and other compensatory problems will arise.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 27, 2005 -> 04:24 PM) We could all greet them at the Cell on Monday against the Angels. I'll be there

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ May 26, 2005 -> 07:52 PM) Looks like Extra Innings for Cleveland/Minnesota again. good let them wear each others arms out.

QUOTE(Steff @ May 26, 2005 -> 04:05 PM) Actually.. he doesn't hate him as much as Rick Hahn who is responsible for the way Fisk was screwed over. Jerry is the reason Carlton was kept on to get the record. This is true. I am in the minority and will be hammered but I believe the Sox did Fisk a favor by keeping him as long as they did. He was obviously no longer a major league player at the time they let him go. No team would go near him. He could no longer hit or catch effectively. He was one of my favorite players to watch but he was done. I will agree the way they dumped him was wrong but after he broke the record he shouldn't have played much and who knows how he would have reacted to that.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ May 26, 2005 -> 07:25 PM) I hate people that put a lot of stock in the all-star game. I was arguing with a Red Sox fan out in Boston earlier this year and I was talking up Buehrle and how he has a legitimate shot at 300. The kid's arguments: "Mark Buehrle? Nobody even knows him." "How many all-star games has he been in?" After that last line, I just said, "Wow, you're a f***in' idiot." I think he got the point. I had the same discussion with one of my students who is a Cleveland fan. He said the Sox have no real All-Stars on the tean so there is no way they can keep up the winning all year. My reply was more subdued than yours as he is my student, but his exam grade suffered.

QUOTE(nvxplorer @ May 26, 2005 -> 06:58 PM) I like to read the comments at CBS. There are always the predictable "It's early" comments. While this is of course true, I wonder how long it will take before people stop saying it's early. Something from the article I wasn't aware of. The Sox lead the league in BA against left handers - .299 I also like the ESPN idiots commenting that the SOX started off well last year (something like 24-16) before the began to tail off. This insinuates that we will fall off again soon. Soxtalk>>>>>>>>>ESPN

QUOTE(robinventura23 @ May 25, 2005 -> 12:49 PM) This may be the game where Pods sits. Maybe even AJ, considering they're facing a LH. Hopefully, Uribe rides the pine, though since he's 0-for the road trip. In any case, we need Freddy to repeat his Wrigley performance. I agree, AJ will sit tonight.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 24, 2005 -> 01:19 PM) If you see that once through the lineup you adjust and start to take the ball the other way or hit it up the middle. You dont stand off the plate, step into the bucket opening up,. trying to pull the pitch on the outisde corner. If thats they case, you will never ever hit that ball. That is the way to approach it. However, the pitcher will bust a few inside and you will not be able to do that. If a pitcher has pinpoint control that good you won't beat him. Just realize he was better yesterday and the players will move on to the rest of the series.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 24, 2005 -> 10:35 AM) I bet that Timo leads off tonight. He is going to replace Pods in the lineup. I bet you're right. Ozzie said something about resting Pods in this series.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 24, 2005 -> 12:48 AM) The sox offense has a good chance against Colon. He is one of those pitchers that likes to challenge our hitters, which means he wont spend his time painting the outside corner. We should get a few good licks on his fastball. One thing you seem to miss is that if you can spot a 90+mph fastball on the outside black all day long you will win nearly every game. Most pitchers can't do that consistently. Santana was on yesterday, let's move on and try to win at least one on the left coast.

Rooney by a large margin

QUOTE(Steff @ May 23, 2005 -> 01:23 PM) I care about winning. winning isn't everything, IT'S THE ONLY THING!!!!!!!

QUOTE(DABearSoX @ May 23, 2005 -> 11:41 AM) I read an article in the paper on if JR dove into his pockets and made the parking lots into an area like wrigleyville, with bars and things to do before and after the game we could be owning this city. What most people tend to forget is that JR owns very little of the team. I'm sure someone knows the exact number but I believe it is around 9%. He is the managing partner and speaks for the rest of the group. Holwever, when discussing the improvements around the ballpark it is by no means "JR diving into his pockets." It is the plan of the partners (of which there are many) and that of the Illinois Sports Authority which owns the stadium which must be taken into conisderation. I hope they do improve the area around the ballpark but it will hardly be up to JR diving into his pockets to do so.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ May 23, 2005 -> 10:31 AM) Everyone needs to put this line of thinking to rest. Frank is one of the most prolific OBP guys in the history of the game; in no way, shape, or form should we question his return to the lineup. It's rather easy: Frank starts at DH. Done. It's Frank Freakin Thomas we are talking about. I'm blown away with this questioning. We will find this out shortly after he comes back. Is he going to be the "my stats first only guy." If a situation calls for him to hit to the right side to move a runner along will he do it? Or will he try to pull it to get the RBI or increase his ave. This has been the complaints about him, mags and c. lee in the past. Only worrying about their own stats. Mags and C.Lee are gone becuase of it let's see how Frank responds. Me, I hope he comes back and stays until he retires, but if he doesn't do what Ozzie asks he may be gone.

QUOTE(fathom @ May 18, 2005 -> 12:41 PM) We have got to stop making outs on the bases. There's a difference between being aggressive, and playing dumb baseball. Everybody told me I was over reacting when I complained about this in ST. We needed to work on base running then and we still need to work on it.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 17, 2005 -> 01:41 PM) In the Month of May 2005 the bad news first Our power guys Joe Crede who everyone is claiming is a Walker success is batting .191, he has a .268 OBP Kong is batting .149, Everett is batting .233 Dye is batting .239 Our swing players AJ is batting .243 Uribe is batting .245 Now for the good news Our little guys Arow is batting .340 with a .404 OBP Gooch is batting .283 with a .345 OBP Pods is .308 with a .429 OBP And now for the news of hope Our first three guys are doing their job, the rest of the guys needs to kick it in gear. If they hit at all this team will score some runs. Frank should be licking his chops looking at all the ducks that will be on the pond for him. I agree the first three have been doing well. If we begin to get any production from the 3-4-5 we will be in business. Back to the walker discussion. "I wonder if the little guys" are more capable of following the opposite field thoery than the others for whatever reason?

QUOTE(JimH @ May 17, 2005 -> 01:14 PM) Interesting, for me it's been old Comiskey and U.S. Cellular, Wrigley, County Stadium and Miller Park, Anaheim, Dodger Stadium, Pac Bell, Bank One Ballpark in Phoenix, Arlington new, Busch Stadium, HHH Dome, SkyDome, Olympic Stadium in Montreal, Fenway, Tiger Stadium, Comerica, Jacobs Field, Royals Stadium, Riverfront in Cincinnati, Camden, Memorial Stadium in Baltimore, Astrodome, Atlanta new. In the near future, next 2-3 years, want to get to Pittsburgh, RFK in Washington, and Philly. It's a blast getting to other cities and seeing the ballparks. For me it's Both Comiskey's, Wrigley, County Stadium, Miller Park, Petco, Kingdome, Bank One, Old Met Stadium in Minny, Kaufman Stadium, Busch, Sky Dome, Tiger Stadium (not Comerica though), Olympic Stadium, Fenway, Riverfront, Camden, Astrodome, Fulton County, Tropicana, Minute Maid, Yankee Stadium, Oakland Coliseum, Coors Field Three Rivers for a Steelers game but not Pirates.

QUOTE(SoxFanForever @ Apr 15, 2005 -> 01:35 PM) That pen will never succeed without a lefty too!! We better get Billy Wagner too....Better resurrect Lefty Grove while we are getting Ruth too Babe Ruth could double as OF and lefty out of the pen!!!!! It makes as much sense as anything else in this thread.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 17, 2005 -> 12:23 PM) Walker is a complex subject. Everytime I have heard him talk he states on preaching his hitting to all fields. Yet I see nothing from this team over the years to back this up. Last year anyone and I mean anyone who was a soft tosser who could spot the fastball on the outside corner would shut this team down. Why is this. Well look at our players hitting stances and styles. Hands high up, standing away from the plate. If a pitch is inside they murder it foul. On the outside corner they still try to pull that slow pitch and either pop up or roll their wrists over for a weak ground out. Its hard to square up a ball when our hitters are putting hitches and archs in their swings. How many hitters over the last 3 years have had BA's that sit around the .200 level. I have never seen this on a major league team. Yes one player can slump, but groups of our hitters slump at the same time. Konerko is completely lost now. The minute you start changing your stance every single time you go up to the plate you are going to K. He doesnt even have pitch selection right now to go with. This is a mirror of where Crede was last year. Always 0-2. Kong has been a good fastball hitter, however is getting beat this year on 89 mph fastballs down the middle. This is exactly what Crede did last year. Crede would come up with the big home run late in games last year because pitchers would get 0-2 on him and would throw a 12-6 pitch down and in. When you have a hitch in your swing a curve that plays into your upper cut swing is the best remedy. Now Kong is doing the bat resting on the shoulder routine. This is a Walker thing. He had Miggy doing it, Crede and now Kong. The hitting coach should be able to use video of good swings to help a hitter find his swing again. When our hitters get lost they are completely lost and for like 3 or more months at a time. What Walker should be doing is to try and get Konerko's back elbow up a bit. This would stop the upper cut swing and allow him to square up a ball or to for a hit. Watch Arow, his back elbow is up again( which is not where he started the year off with). His hitting is more mechanical than others but very effective. He has great oppo power. Gooch has a goofy open stance, but watch his hands through the hitting zone. Its a line drive swing. This is what I would expect Walker to be teaching the guys. Line drive swings. Line drive swings are less likely to get into slumps. Yes they dont hit the monsterous moon shots, but the BA comes up and the homers will come. Our team has been remade into a smartball team. Its time for them to start to hit like that. Smallball teams dont have a group of hitters hitting below 200. Rob Deer, Jose Valentin teams are the ones with the 200 averages and the upper cut swings. And before we state that Walker helped Carlos get into the 28 game hitting streak lets look to the tinkering he did to get him out of that approach. Walker helped Carlos Lee change his stance and extend his arms at the end of that hitting streak so he could hit for more power. Before Walkers tinkering Carlos had a very tight compact swing with opposite field power. After Walker helped him change his swing, a longer swing that allows Carlos to pull the ball. A month later we are all upset watching Carlos swing for the fences and trying to pull the outside pitch. This is cause an effect. Remember the press was hounding Carlos about the power numbers. Well guess what he changed his swing, told the press he would hit 30 and did. At the expense of situational hitting during a strech in August. Remember when Kenny made the comment about "If I ever see another guy swing for the fences when we need a basehit I will puke." This is an interesting take on the situation. While your points are valid, everytime you hear walker talks he discusses going the opposite way and up the middle is the most important part of hitting. This brings up a few possible scenarios. Either he isn't teaching what he discussing, the hitters aren't listening or the hitters are truly just stuck in a slump and are guessing at pitches. None of these possiblities show well on Walker. One thing I have noticed is Walker keeps talking about his hitters did not walk enough last year and they worked on it in ST. I wonder if they are becoming too passive and wind up going after pitcher's pitches, which may explain the high rate of pop ups. Let's hope the professional experienced hitters can turn it around.

The offense has been awful all year and now the pitching is going south with no end in sight. The offense isn't improving and we need to get rid of crede, PK, Dye Timo, Willie, and anyone else who chokes in an RBI or clutch situation. I'm tired of this whole thing it's going downhill from here and we will be in last place by the end of June!!!!!! I feel better now. Just some anger and rants leftover from last night. My students had a b itch of a lab practical on the lumbar spine and most will need to re-take it to pass the course. It can all be blamed on the last three Sox games. The students are hoping the Sox get better. So, let's get Texas and move on to crush the Cubs.

If you prefer how about tired arm phase. Usually about 1/3 of the way through a season the pitcher go through some kind of a down phase where they kind of lose it. They also go through it later in the year as you mention. It's not an injury but tired. some can work through it better then others