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Yes. But how to have a well rounded team and stay under the CBT is the trick. Just because they need it doesn't mean they have the resources to get it. They needed to prioritize.

Wrong. That is just not realistic to think they would blow past the CBT.

Sure.instead of RF. There wasn't room for everyone to like them all I said it should have been pitching instead of RF.

Along with an acceptable RF and bullpen and 2B upgrades?

And with the budget at record highs and near the CBT you thought they would just spend like LA?

Wait. I thought some of the real needs were RF and backup catcher. People were screaming about how bad it was that he didn't get a RF. Now all of a sudden the real need is pitching?

I replied before you edited but the point remains. Even if the others aren't as far behind, you are trying to set yourself up for disappointment.

You mean very few pitchers who try throw hard all the time can avoid UCL reconstruction. We used to be able to avoid it for most pitchers.

Really? You are declaring disappointment before the season starts?

MLB has Moncada ranked as the #10, #1 prospect of all time. People expectation don't matter. Performance does.

Yes.

Not lucky. They knew how to mange that arm. He went to Boston and they let him do what he wanted.

He had 101 Ks on 94 innings last year so he must have something.

Why do people on the board hate Vaughn. He's 1-1.

Ok. Don't remember that part.

Makes sense.

Why? Did the players not like him?

No it more to his point that the Sox aren't building a team the way the Astros or Cubs did so it must be wrong. I just listed the current players and hiw they were acquired.

The Cubs spending money on Heyward should not be considered a positive. What is wrong with not spending big money on FA when the team has already spent much more than the Cubs did on their payroll. The Sox did it differently than the other 2 by spending big in international players, Abreu and Robert while also making good trades Giolito, Cease, Jimenez, Moncada Kopech and Pollock. They also spent money and gave big contracts to fill holes with Hendriks and Grandal. I fail to see why the fact that they didn't do it like everyone else did means they are a failure and can't get them to the next level.

If they didn't match up with Oakland for Manea they probably don't for Momtas either

So if you add Rodon at 22 million, if puts them over the CBT. So who isn't on the current team to save that 22 million?

So what is the different skill required to acquire players to get to this point and acquiring players to make the next step? It there a different type of player that can take the Sox to the next level as opposed to the player that can make the team good at this point?

I don't think the questions was could they finish it off. That has only been the question the last 2 years. Prior to that 95% of the posters here did not want to allow this FO to attempt the rebuild as they didn't trust them. It's the same old complaining no matter what happens. KW won a world series but is was lick and not him he sucks. The FO can't do a rebuild because their all idiots. The build a good team but can't finish it. If they win a world series but only one like the Cubs or Astros it will go back to them being idiots but lucky and they couldn't capitalize on the team. Now before all the water carrying comments start coming, do I agree with every move. No. But to say they can't acquire players to win isn't correct either. I think back when this started and I argued to give the FO a shot at the rebuild the timeline I said was contending by year 3 and win in the playoffs by year 4. I think year 4 would be next year if I remember right.

So the FO gets no credit for acquiring Grandal, Abreu, Moncada, Jimenez, Robert, Giolito, Cease, Lynn, Hendricks, Bummer. However, they get discredited for acquiring Hernanadez and Kimbrel. Is that point?

It could. But as we see now, you can never have enough pitching. The problem is they are counting on Vaughn during a world series run so he may not be the one to trade unless they have confidence in Sheets or Burger to contribute now. You have to trade talent to get talent. Just depends on how it all fits together and the situation of the team.