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Yes it will. Many have used this excuse in the nfl back in the day. Although it would probably need to be about 8 -12 weeks during the healing process.
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He'll be ready near the beginning of the year. Although they've been really conservative lately so maybe in the middle of the season.
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Yes.
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Once a month isn't uncommon. Check in with the trainers for progress.
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Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
ptatc replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
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I always though his contract with AB bonuses starting at 400 made me think they didn't really consider him a "full time" starter.
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Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
ptatc replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
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Of course you can have all of those opinions. However you also need to look at a few other variables. 1. They are only 20 million they were only 40 million or so from the luxury tax. Most people didn't think their salary thus high let alone go higher. 2. They had a good lineup already but their bullpen was Hendricks, bummer, Crochet and kimbrel (who we all knew was going to be traded for pitching or an RF). That is a weak bullpen. Weaker than the lineup. 3. The starting staff has 3 good dependable pieces giolito, Lynn, Cease. Kopech is talented but they know he is on a limitation. Keuchal, well. However quality starting pitching us very expensive to acquire and hiw can that fir under the tax 4. Giolito is going to need a new contract soon. If they spend all the way to the cap where us this money coming from or are they planning on letting him go now. So giving this secanario. Spending to near the salary tax to add to a lineup that is already good is risky considering the limitations. They decided to add to a weakness, the bullpen and trade kimbrel for a decent but flawed upgrade in RF. You could go otherwise but adding to a strength when there are other weaknesses would have been an expensive luxury.
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I don't disagree. However I think your obsession with the fact that the Sox haven't had a RF in 15 years is not that big of a deal. If there were multiple positions where they were lacking talent it would be one thing. But the fact that they have very few weaknesses is a good thing. Strength up the middle is more important than a RF. The fact that they have a really good hitting CF with outstanding defense negates that deficit to an extent.
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Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
ptatc replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Are they valuing the now because they think they are in a window to win now with these last couple of picks? We know they are up against the luxury and would thus need to have more, cheaper players. -
Just because others wanted gim doesn't mean he fits into the Sox plan. I know you think the Sox FO are idiots but signing a player is more than just who the better player may be. The Cubs are in a totally different siutation. If it takes a year fir Suzuki to acclimate its no big deal to them. They won't be good for probably 3 years. The Sox went to the international market to get colas and cespedas. They aren't looking to have a player for 5 years when they already have 2 players for the OF they will still be playing by then in Jimenez and Robert.
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For everyone who thinks TLR runs the team, did the Sox prefer AJP because TLR knew him from Arizona and wanted him?
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Good one. I'll go with Madrigal as TLR likes to rest players more even when they are healthy.
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Isn't the Suzuki deal 5 years for around 100 including the posting fee? I would not have signed an unknown for 5 years when you are trying to win.
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Agreed. I see him doing well in LA.
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This is a little revionist history. Kimbrel was not an aging player with the hope he could squeeze a little more out of him at the trade deadline last year. He was by far the best relief pitcher on the market.
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Why couldn't he be a full time starter in your scenario in the majors? He would be a full time starter by year 4. His limit was 50-60 with never being a full time starter college and only 13 innings in the COVID year with an injury. If your point is that you only wanted to see him in the majors as a starter and wanted gim to work as a reliever and part time starter in the majors that's fine. He would be in the majors in 2 more years or so. But he would would have followed the exact same innings and plan either way. So what is of more benefit to the White Sox and his development? Following that plan while helping the White Sox win now or having him as a fulltime starter in 2024 and no help now?
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I agree but thats a separate discussion. That doesn't mean the way they handled him made him a reliever. He only pitched 13 innings his last year of college. There was no way he could have been handled differently "to stretch him out." It was just going to take longer to build him up.
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What would have been a better way to use his 50-60 innings limit?
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You would think so. That team will win a lot of games.
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There was really no other way to handle him, innings wise. Unless you only wanted him to pitch part of a season.
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Focus on defense? That would be the only reason to play Engle over the othets.
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Sure. They'll admit that. Just like all bargaining units do.
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Calling people out for contrary opinions? This is what you were doing when nothing was happening.
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After his role in the CBA they had to make him work for it .