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QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 10:51 PM) Their winning the division and one of the elite teams in the NFL...... The team that was amazing last year and i can see out of the playoffs this year is the steelers. Yeah, so were the last teams that were in the situations that they're in. QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 10:56 PM) Does this mean you don't think they'll make the playoffs? Not neccessarily. The last 2 teams to do the things the Patriots have done recently enjoyed some success (i.e. making the playoffs) after their runs were over, but just kept slipping and slipping in talent level and eventually the win column. In fact, one of those teams recently had the #1 pick in the draft.
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QUOTE(Spiff @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 09:56 PM) Well there goes your credibility. Really? Show me the last team that was built around defense and lost it's leader on defense, and both of it's coordinators, and still succeeded in the following years. Going by the history of the NFL, they're going to slip into mediocrity, and likely even worse.
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QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 11:29 AM) I don't know if NE will have a dropoff or not with some of the losses they've had. However, Indy's season basically = November 7th. Indy's @ NE for the MNF game. I see that game's winner getting home field in the AFC. If Indy can get home field, I think they can get into the Super Bowl with no problems. I disagree with this. New England might not even be in the top tier of playoff teams this year. The loss of Bruschi, Crennel, and Weis will go a LONG way toward that. Besides, if the Colts would've just CAUGHT the ball instead of letting fall to the ground so often both on offense and on defense in last year's playoffs, this wouldn't even be an issue QUOTE(rangercal @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 11:54 AM) ha look at the link http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-...ar?sort_col_1=4 So you actually put stock into the NFL's Total Sham...err...Total Defense ranking? Personally I wouldn't consider a ranking system that considers a 40 yard TD drive better than an 80 yard drive that ends in an INT very efficient, which is why I don't use it. Defenses that are successful get a lot of turnovers, a lot of sacks, and don't allow too many points. The Colts were 3rd in turnovers, 3rd in sacks and 19th in Points Allowed last year. While that's not the best, that's not exactly chopped liver either. Add a ton of talent that either didn't start or wasn't there last year (Jackson, Sanders, Simon, Brackett), and you've got the makings of a good defense. QUOTE(rangercal @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 11:57 AM) The bears also had key injuries to half their defense last year. What would Indys offense be without any 2 of the following: Manning, James, Harrison, wayne , stokley, Injuries are a part of the game. Manning goes down, the Colts' season is over, but fortunately he's one of the most durable QBs in the NFL. QUOTE(rangercal @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 12:04 PM) I do not disagree. I'm just tired of everyone Saying you can't win without O. I guess you can win without D huh? Not really. If the ultimate goal for any franchise was just to get to the AFC championship game every year , then I guess you don need a decent D. You can't win without offense. Your defense can be the 2000 Baltimore Ravens defense, but if your offense can't put up any points, it won't matter, because no game in NFL history has ever been won by a team that put up no points. Conversely, if you have a great offense and no defense, it won't matter either, because if a team can score at will on you, you'll rarely be able to outscore them. QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 12:25 PM) No way, Zoom. While I like the D-Line, their LB core is atrocious, and their secondary is incredibly raw. They're in the 27-32 bracket with these teams IMO: Indianapolis Detroit New Orleans San Francisco Green Bay Kansas City And a major lack of depth at LB and in the secondary is going to mean insanely awful coverage on special teams, which is absolutely huge. I agree with most of this, but again, the NFL's Total Sham rankings don't really matter. The defensive line is going to put MASSIVE amounts of pressure on opposing QBs, and that will lead to mistakes. That and better tackling in 3rd and long situations should improve the defense a lot. Maybe they'll even be in the top 15 in Points Allowed. QUOTE(Spiff @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 12:42 PM) Are you saying you don't believe in Gary Brackett and Donald Stickland? Brackett has better coverage skills than Morris, and can play the run about equally well. As for Donald Strickland, not only is he not a starter, he's not even playing, because he's injured. I expect that Marlin Jackson and Jason David will be the starters come Sept. 11th.
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You don't want to be looking back at an A.J. Pierzynski for Joe Nathan, Fransisco Liriano, and Boof Bosner type trade in 2 years, or at least I don't, especially if the trade didn't pay off in the short run. That's the problem with overpaying, but Kenny even said he was willing to overpay and still couldn't get a deal done. How much more can you ask of a GM?
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QUOTE(rangercal @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 10:31 AM) Just like how Indys O is great but it just does not make up for their s***ty D . What are you talking about? The Colts had an average D last year and upgraded in talent at every level of their D. The secondary was upgraded by the replacement of Nick Harper and Idrees Bashir with Marlin Jackson and Bob Sanders, the LB corps was upgraded by making Gary Brackett the starter ahead of Blob Morris, and the DL was upgraded with the signing of Simon. The Bears offense, on the other hand, was the worst in the NFL. They did upgrade their talent a lot, so that might make them an average offense if Orton gets going well. Either way, their defense is going to have to carry them to most if not all of their wins this year.
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QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 12:53 AM) not as big of a hit since noone else added. the biggest surge would be if Uribe has one of his two week stretches he had last year where he is insane at the plate, and start it about Oct. 4!! but since he hasn't really had one all year, not likely He's due
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QUOTE(Heads22 @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 10:28 PM) Us Colts guys need to stick together. What's the latest on Stokely? Last I heard, he was probable to start against the Ravens. What do you think of that Corey Simon signing Heads?
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I say go to the 6 man rotation. It'll get the starters rested and ready for the playoffs, and it'll give BMac a chance to show his stuff.
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QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 10:09 PM) Beautiful game. The 4 games Pods has played in since he has come back the sox have scored: 5, 6, 8, and 12 runs. Hmmm, I see a trend here. Maybe someone who is very important to the offense being out was the main reason for the skid the Sox went on in August?
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how we learned to stop worrying and love fathom
Dam8610 replied to Chifananthony's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Why do SO MANY posters here think that Kenny Williams should take the blame if something goes awry? Because he couldn't add a major bat in "our year", and he wouldn't pay "whatever it takes"? I find quite a few things wrong with this. First off, if it's our year, it'll be our year regardless, no trade or acquisition will change that. Secondly, do you really want to pay whatever it takes for something that will guarantee absolutely nothing? I know I sure as hell don't. Why? Do you really want to be looking back on a trade like this: 11/14/03 The San Fransisco Giants acquired C A.J. Pierzynski from the Twins for Ps Joe Nathan, Boof Bonser and Francisco Liriano. A year or two later, ESPECIALLY if the Sox wound up losing anyway? Think about that, right now, the Giants could have a bonafide closer AND 2 up and coming starting pitching prospects, but instead of that what do they have? Well, they've got A.J. Pierzynski...oh wait, WE have A.J. Pierzynski. So they have absolutely nothing but their own stupidity to show for that trade. It's just not worth it when the asking price is too high. -
Meaning if it only goes down 1 per day from here on, the division will be won on September 24th. I'm not assuming anything, just stating a fact.
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OH MY GOD! I never thought I'd live to see the day where Dr. Z EVER praised the Colts. He has them as the #1 team. I guess I should be happy about that?
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"It's not over until WE decide it is!"
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QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 11:41 PM) It was right at the time. After the loss of game 1 it was down to 6.5. And very good post r&w, a team can get hot the last few weeks of a season and have that carry them through. If we can get Dye or Aaron hot the last month and continue to have them hit the ball hard going into the playoffs then the offense all the sudden won't look so bad. Actually, from what I saw tonight, all it'll take is Pods getting hot, getting on base often, and wreaking havoc on the basepaths. He created quite a few things for the offense today.
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QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 10:44 PM) I'm getting a lot of answer, and that's all well and good. But, I'm not getting what I want. Someone just say yes, he'll be the next Santana Well, if he can carry his EXTREMELY impressive minor league numbers into the major leagues, we're talking someone who could end up with a career ERA in the low 3s, or maybe even the 2s.
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Pods got a hit for Iguchi tonight by running. He also stole his 55th base and scored some runs. He has a HUGE impact on the White Sox offense, and anyone who can't look past home run, RBI, and SLG% totals to see the impact of a leadoff hitter with good speed is just plain dumb.
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Tonight, we saw the future of the White Sox in action. Brandon Bobby
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QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Aug 28, 2005 -> 11:14 PM) You seem to be expecting a lot from Orton and just setting yourself up to be dissapointed. Has he looked good in pre-season... yes but thats against almost all the time vs the 2nd team defense and with miami it was the 3rd team defense.... Like I said as long as he keeps defenses honest and not stacking the line against the run we should be good. I have kind of high hopes but im not trying to set my expectations 2 high just to see him be a bust. Well, all the opinions you read there are from a Colts fan who also happens to be a Purdue fan. I watched Kyle a lot, and IMO he's a very good, very smart QB. Will that translate into an all-pro year? Well, even I don't think he's the next Marino, but he'll be a lot more successful than the average rookie QB IMO.
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Ouch, those are bad numbers. However, I still think he's more deserving than Jon Adkins.
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QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 12:41 AM) Well it seemed like to the Dam8610 that because of Brian one successful game, he deserved a place on the playoff roster. Not at all the case. Brian Anderson has done well in his stint up here IMO, and Jon Adkins has proven himself unworthy of a ML roster spot IMO, therefore Brian Anderson is a better player to keep on the roster IMO. QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 12:43 AM) Well about 5 games is a pretty small sample size to real take note of the stats, but I think if most were asked around here would you'd prefer Timo or Brian on the post - season roster, they'd say Brian. and I would definitely be among those. QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 01:08 AM) That means nothing, and most of the voters would go against Timo just because they hate Timo so much. Timo has postseason experience. That favors him. Timo can bunt. Timo is left handed. That's about it, but really, how often in the playoffs does it come down to the 25th man? It's not like we're choosing who will bat 3rd in the lineup. I would go against Timo because I've always preferred talent and ability to produce over experience, hence voiding your first advantage of keeping Timo over Brian to me. Timo can bunt, but in what limited action he saw, Brian proved that he could bunt too, so that makes them even there. As for a LH bat, I would again argue that talent and ability to produce are more important. Despite these points, if it were up to me, both Brian and Timo would both still be on the roster, and Jon Adkins would be back in Charlotte. IMO, Adkins is simply not deserving of a spot on the 25 man roster, and especially the playoff roster.
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Brian Anderson does great, owns a phenom pitcher, and gets demoted, while Jon Adkins does horribly, has an ERA a little bit above 13, and stays on the active roster. Can someone please explain the logic and/or thought behind this?
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QUOTE(SnB @ Aug 28, 2005 -> 01:44 PM) its like playing the lottery. maybe they've found a diamond in the rough. oh wait, they're the bears........nevermind Bears or not, they found a 1st round talent in the 4th round of the draft. Can you say steal of the draft? QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Aug 28, 2005 -> 02:04 PM) over/under 4 starting QB's for the bears this season im going to go with under . I think orton s going to be average and will be are starter all season. I agree with your assessment, and if you're setting the over/under at 4, I'd take under any day of the week. Even "QB carousel" Spurrier only used 3 in his 1st year in Washington. QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 28, 2005 -> 02:30 PM) There's about a 1% chance Orton does anything of substance this year. I have to disagree with that. He's got just about everything you want in a QB. He's calm in the pocket and can throw just about any ball exactly where it needs to be and when it needs to be there. QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Aug 28, 2005 -> 02:31 PM) I just hope people are expecting 2 much from Orton, He is not only a rookie but a late round rookie so to expect 2 much from him is just asking to be dissapointed. I just want him to keep defenses honest and not be pathetic like Hutchinson and the rest of the crew of QB's from last year. He may be a rookie, but to discount him because he was drafted in the later rounds is absurd. He was an absolute steal in the 4th round and I think he'll do well this season. Does that mean a 4000 yard 30 TD season? Probably not, but don't be suprised if he's efficient, and helps the Bears offense score a lot more points this season.
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QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 05:50 PM) oh, hawk, how stupid are thee? The man that launched 1000 paraphrases...
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I think Orton should be given a shot at the Bears starting QB job, because he's showing the same things that he showed in his best days at Purdue when the Boilers were the #5 ranked team in the nation and Orton was the frontrunner for the Heisman, plus he's shown that he's capable of a whole lot more than any other Bears QB (except for maybe Grossman, but no one knows what he's capable of). FWIW, I think Orton was the steal of the draft.
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Maybe if someone were to ask Boyer REALLY nicely, he could get the White Sox to sell it?