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Soria was worth 1.1 bWAR and 1.7(!) fWAR last year. A 1 WAR season is a good season for a reliever. A 2 WAR season is an amazing season for a reliever. As the above numbers suggest (bWAR is more reliant on stats that tell on field results, while fWAR relies more on peripherals and predictive stats), Soria pitched better than his results suggested, and even his results made for a good season for a reliever. He's going into his age 34 season, and effectively has 2 years of control. If he pitches well, he should bring a quality return in July should the Sox decide to move him. If he pitches poorly, they're not required to keep him beyond this year. The best part is Hahn got him for nothing. Peter went to LAD for Avilan. I don't understand how anyone could be unhappy about any part of this trade, and I liked Peter.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 5, 2018 -> 12:05 AM) Let's put it this way. He had three clean 8th inning leads in July and August (3-2, 8-7 and 4-3) and blew all of those key games. The most egregious example, though, was August 15th vs. the A's. Entered the 8th with a clean 8-4 lead (not even a save situation), managed to give up 4 runs and only recorded one out. That was the killer game in their season (think Thome vs. Matt Thornton). Lost 10-8. From July 8th through August 15th (15 outings), he had: 1 Loss (started the 9th clean with a 1-1 tie against BALT) 3 Blown Saves 1 Blown 4 run lead 5 Holds So he blew the Royals 2017 season AND has the peripherals to suggest a bounceback year that could cause him to be a good flip candidate to get more prospects for the rebuild? Sounds great to me.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 06:38 PM) Friedman and Hahn have a pretty good working relationship. Guessing dodgers needed Team to take salary to work out, called one Sox Hahn should leverage that relationship to raid their farm by taking on some or all (depending on what else is coming back) of the Kemp deal.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 02:47 PM) This Sessions news is unreal. Who the hell is even for this, aside from private prison companies? Even the Republican politicians from these states are up in arms. Big Pharma.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jan 3, 2018 -> 10:14 AM) Adolfo Sheets Stephens Clarkin Skoug To sum it up. Skoug over Call is dumb, but solid list otherwise.

Seems like a good chance to take. Also may indicate how they're leaning on Abreu.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 1, 2018 -> 03:19 PM) I read what you copy and pasted Iwritecode. I can buy that. You have supported your stance well. In a debate I'm sure your evidence, if the article was substantiated as true and correct, would deem you the victor in any debate with me on this. The article is from Snopes, they're known as fact checkers and well respected by pretty much everyone. What further substantiation do you need?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 28, 2017 -> 11:09 PM) Let's not have another Tatis, Jr. fiasco. If the Dodgers ended up with a Tatis Jr. by getting a 22 year old who performed poorly in a league in which he was over average age, then this rebuild is doomed because the White Sox have the worst developmental staff in the league and the Dodgers have far and away the best.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 28, 2017 -> 11:01 AM) Thome put up wRC+ of 153, 150, 122, and 123 during his time with the White Sox. Aaron Rowand had one good season after the White Sox traded him. If you want to blame defense, you can blame Ozzie for continually putting Mackowiak in CF, but the root cause of that team falling off was the complete implosion by the pitching staff. Their ERA rose a full run from 2005 to 2006. That trade had nothing to do with it, and in fact, I would say was the biggest reason they won 90 games that season. Think that balloon in ERA may have been heavily contributed to by CF DRS going from +15 in 2005 to -8 in 2006?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 28, 2017 -> 09:55 AM) The Yankees absolutely have enough bullets. You could argue that Judge for Trout straight up is a fair trade (if not lop-sided towards the Angels), and the Yankees have quite a few more pieces beyond that they could include as well if the Angels didn't feel that was enough. There are a lot of bad peripherals on Judge, I would doubt anyone would buy the argument that he's more valuable than Trout, even with the contract disparity.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 28, 2017 -> 10:12 AM) At some point I'd rather take the money spent on a guy like this who probably last year made as much as our head coach and just hire better coaches. Or more (and better) scouts.

QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 27, 2017 -> 05:57 PM) I didn't include him because Jim wasn't well past his prime. He was past his prime when the White Sox got him, and sending Rowand to get him was an overpay and IMO part of the reason the 2006 team didn't make the playoffs (CF was brutally bad for that team). The Sox were very fortunate that Thome's age 35-37 seasons were as productive as they were.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Dec 27, 2017 -> 06:51 PM) I'll gladly take 3 championships in 7 years and being in the dweller for a while. Isn't that kind of the whole goal of this rebuild?

QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 27, 2017 -> 12:39 PM) The “Kenny got his guy team” 1B: Darrin Erstad 2B: Roberto Alomar 3B: Kevin Youkilous SS: Omar Vizquel LF: Manny Ramirez CF:KGJ RF: Ichiro C: Sandy Alomar Jr. DH: Carl Everett Looks like a winner to me! Either DH or 1B has to be Thome.

This seems like a good place to ask this question. Is there a reason that high dividend yield securities aren't used as part of aggressive growth strategies? Especially when the security is something like a REIT interest where the asset portfolio is less risky and the primary reason for high yields is legal avoidance of tax (REITs have to distribute 90%+ of their profits to shareholders to avoid the profits being taxed at the trust level)? Because I feel like if I'm getting a 15-20% dividend yield, I really don't care what happens to the value of the stock short of it tanking completely.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 21, 2017 -> 07:56 PM) But the highest tax bracket has a higher % to pay than the lower tax brackets. So the rich pay more by % and more by gross amount. By saying "as a percentage of their income" its like saying you want what they have just because they have it. Not "just because they have it" so much as "because that's what pays for society to be a society".

QUOTE (pablo @ Dec 21, 2017 -> 03:53 PM) I absolutely want the Sox to try to sign Machado or Harper but it's still more of a longshot considering the Dodgers, Yankees, Cubs, Red Sox will be in on them. Which is exactly why Sox should be trading for someone like Yelich -i.e. a cost-controlled position player - that they can plug into their lineup as a certainty for 6-7 years. Considering the (likely) possibility of not signing a stud FA, I'd rather the Sox were proactive in acquiring young cost-controlled star talent rather than be left holding the bag next December/January and trying to find second tier free agents to spend on just to spend. Obviously, the cost has to be taken into consideration (no Eloy, Kopech, Moncada). In looking at FG's annual "Trade Value" series, only two position players stick out as possible candidates (i.e. a seller would be willing to trade them) - Yelich and Michael Conforto. I wonder if up and coming young stars are going to start waiting on signing that early contract like Harper, Machado, Correa, Betts, Lindor, Bryant, Seager did/are doing because they'll see the crazy amount of money they can get if they wait. This would make it harder for Sox or any other team to try to acquire talent cheaply. The great thing about 2019 is if you don't get Machado or Harper, there's always Arenado in 2020. Those teams can't get them all.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 21, 2017 -> 01:45 PM) I mean, I think that's a really great package. I'm not saying it's garbage. My initial reaction is simply to the comment that it's comparable to the "desired 2016" Sale package of Moncada/Devers/Kopech, and it just isn't. That's all I'm trying to say. 1) The initial post had a +, meaning that the intended package included at least one additional player.. 2) While Moncada was a much better first piece than current Giolito, I think Robert and Hansen today are more attractive secondary pieces than Kopech and Devers were last year around this time. I think you're forgetting that at this time last year, there were significant questions about Kopech. He was coming off of a self-inflicted season ending injury, and hadn't been above A ball. Devers hadn't been above A ball, either. 3) Sale is better and more valuable than Yelich by a large margin, and he didn't even bring Moncada/Kopech/Devers. We shouldn't even be talking about anything close to the Sale package for Yelich, let alone something more valuable.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 21, 2017 -> 11:25 AM) @JonHeyman 36m36 minutes ago #SFGiants need 1, 2 or maybe 3 outfielders. so here's a rundown of the many, many options via trades and/or free agency. Giants looking for multiple outfielders and have had interest in Avi. My proposal would be Ramos, Reynolds, and Fernandez for Avi. Or would you guys be willing to take on Pence for one year and relief some money for the Giants in hopes to get better prospects back and then flip Pence at the deadline? If the Sox are trading Avi to the Giants, I want Ramos. He and 2 lottery tickets would work for me.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 21, 2017 -> 12:46 AM) He's not in favor of the tank obviously. I've been preaching this to the choir during the Sox rebuild. It's pretty sad fans have to pay 40 bucks to park a car or whatever it is and 11 bucks for a beer and 18 bucks for a burger, fries and coke and watch a team that's tanking on purpose. Very sad. I wish the fans would boycott during the tank years then come back when the rebuild is complete. It's bogus. I went last season, and your numbers are ridiculously inflated. Like at least double on each item you mentioned, triple in some cases. If you're going to b**** about this, at least be accurate.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 21, 2017 -> 08:27 AM) No one, anywhere, is higher on any of Giolito/Robert/Hansen than any of Moncada/Kopech/Devers. They are not in the same tier and there's no plausible way to argue otherwise. No one ever said the two packages were equal today. My point was 2017 Giolito/Robert/Hansen = 2016 Moncada/Kopech/Devers.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 20, 2017 -> 07:53 PM) Diehard Orioles are starting to lose it. Hard to blame them, would suck to lose a star like Machado for basically nothing. Also, look at this proposed offer one of their fans came up with: Why do people put Cease and Hansen on the same tier? That makes me want to sell Cease, because Hansen is SO MUCH BETTER. That said, you make the "Cease/Hansen" Cease, drop the Stephens/Guerrero part and make Burger someone Sheets or less and it's not a terrible proposal, though not one I'd want the Sox to do, either.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 20, 2017 -> 03:53 PM) Respectfully, I think you're wrong here. He comes with five years of control at between $7mm - 15mm per year, and the last year is a team option. He's not quite as good a player as Sale, but his contract is even better. He could slot in to any of three OF positions, making him a fit for literally every contender. Market would be huge. Not Gio, Robert, Hansen huge. That'd be like the Moncada, Kopech, Devers package many here wanted for Sale, and even he didn't bring that.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 20, 2017 -> 12:04 PM) Yelich = Giolito, Robert, Hansen, + ( no thanks ) We just need to keep stock piling and developing. Any trades for established controlled stars is gonna cost way too much. That's WAY too high. What you listed is essentially double the Eaton package, which was considered an overpay industry wide. Yelich will not command not garner that type of offer. Not even close.

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Dec 20, 2017 -> 10:49 AM) Not sure why but have a feeling all these offers were low Have a feeling Giolito and Adams were all that was offered (hate to lose Gio) Time for JR and Hahn to work on an offseason pitch Baltimore would've jumped on getting Giolito, probably. I'm sure he's better than anything they were offered.