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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 05:53 PM) For some reason Hillary Clinton’s approval rating is a thing right now? Aren't they tracking that for quite a few people who could run in 2020?

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 04:44 PM) James Fox‏ @JamesFox917 5m5 minutes ago More So @MLBBruceLevine says #Orioles asked the #Cubs for Javier Baez in exchange for Machado. I think he stays in Baltimore. They missed the boat on dealing him if they are asking for guys like that in return. At this point they should take anything they value higher than a Top 50 pick in the 2019 draft.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 09:54 AM) I have a lot of hope for that 2016 Lat Am class. Much less for the 2015 guys. That said, we do need a bunch of high schoolers, and we are in much better position to do it than last year at #10. Nander de Sedas is drawing comps to Lindor. Scouts say better bat, slightly worse defense. I'd still prefer a college bat at #4, but a youth infusion throughout the rest of the draft would be welcomed.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 18, 2017 -> 03:30 PM) Jon Heyman‏Verified account @JonHeyman 30m30 minutes ago trade market for matt kemp believed to be virtually nonexistent. if dodgers can find a taker via trade they are magicians. Or they attached significant prospect compensation. Getting Buehler or Verdugo and sending back a Matt Rose or some college player who performed poorly at Great Falls would probably make the Sox interested.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 05:47 PM) White Sox had 5 of the first 59 in 2004, and 7 of the first 89, and the only one the drafted worth a damn was Gio Gonzalez. But back then, the White Sox shied away from drafting the best talent because JR didn't want to pay for it.

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 01:41 PM) Looks good to me The highest rated LAD prospect I can see involved would be OF Jeren Kendall (74 in baseball) Hard pass on Kendall.

QUOTE (wrathofhahn @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 10:58 AM) Need more then that for 42 million. He's essentially worth at most 1 year 5 million ish. That means you are talking a top 40 prospect or two top 100 prospects you like. So Buehler or Verdugo+?

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Dec 16, 2017 -> 08:46 AM) Still feel Gio has ace potential As does Kopech, Rodon, and Hansen so watch out So does Lopez, Cease and even Fulmer. Hopefully they all hit their ceilings, but if not, the Sox also have some solid #2/3 ceiling types like Dunning, Stephens, Guerrero, Adams, and Clarkin, then some fringe guys who could turn into back of rotation guys like Flores, Lambert, Puckett, and a few power relief arms like Burdi and Vieira. I think out of all of this, the Sox will get 12 quality pitchers to build around in some capacity.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 16, 2017 -> 09:17 AM) Preston Tucker was DFA'd yesterday. Wonder what Houston is looking for in return. If he was DFAd, can't he just be claimed off waivers for nothing?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 11:10 PM) I'm just saying if the baseball world is saying we've arrived, why don't we arrive? Let's win, baby. Some dude in KC is not "the baseball world". I'd like to see this team compete for a wild card next year, because that means everything is going right, but it's still easy to see a 90+ loss team in 2018 and that not necessarily reflecting poorly on the rebuild.

In answer to your question, Greg, likely not, but if it were, even you would have to rate the rebuild well at that point.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 09:49 PM) The Cardinals are masters of finding prospects nobody has heard of and getting 3+ WAR seasons out of them in MLB The White Sox need to get better at that.

QUOTE (whitesoxwinner @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 09:35 PM) Is everybody down on Blake Rutherford? I still think he can be a stud. He was a young kid who struggled after getting traded. I still see a ton of talent/potential once he grows into his body. I'm not, but I'm not the one who put together that lineup. With Machado, my projected 2020 (maybe 2021) lineup: 1) Robert CF 2) Moncada 2B 3) Machado 3B 4) Jimenez RF 5) Abreu DH 6) Rutherford LF 7) Burger/Sheets/FA Acquisition 1B 8) Collins C 9) Anderson SS If EVERYTHING goes right, that could be close to a 50 WAR lineup. That's assuming Robert, Moncada, Machado, and Jimenez are 6+ WAR, 3 more of the remaining players are 4+ WAR, and the other 2 are 2-3 WAR, or, as I said, EVERYTHING goes right.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 09:07 PM) Realistically, could this lineup combine for 30 WAR if all went right? 1. Robert, RF 2. Moncada, 2B 3. Machado, SS 4. Abreu, 1B 5. Jimenez, LF 6. Delmonico, DH 7. Burger, 3B 8. Collins, C 9. Anderson, CF If it all went right, 1-5 in that lineup should combine for about 30 WAR.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 05:56 PM) They have some decent players. How does Avi, Fulmer, Cease make them playoff contenders in a couple of years? They are pretty much screwed right now. Their best chance at actually winning the next 5 years is keeping Machado this year, and hoping everything goes right. Once he is gone, so is all hope in Baltimore for a long while. The return for Machado that makes them playoff contenders in a year or two doesn't exist. If they're smart, they take what they can get while they can get it so they're not left holding the 2nd round comp pick bag.

QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 05:56 PM) Not that I'm all that attached to any of them, but Avi, Cease, and Fulmer seems like a steep price for one year of Machado at around $17M (projected arbitration salary). I said it was an overpay if you don't get the extension.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 05:43 PM) Because they play them 18 or 19 times. It is very understandable. If the White Sox word isn't good enough, then it won't happen. Probably won't happen anyway. There has to be at least one top guy in the package or it makes no sense for Baltimore. Why? If the Orioles are going to be bad either way, it stands to reason that trading him for something now is better than letting him walk and getting only a 2nd round comp pick. If the Orioles are looking at it that way, getting something of more value than that would be their floor for dealing him. The White Sox have many ways they could exceed that floor without giving up any core rebuild pieces. Avi, Fulmer, Cease is a package that I'd be okay with parting with that doesn't really tough the rebuild assets all that much, but may look better to the O's than anything else they're getting offered. Of course, that would all be with the caveat that the White Sox are committed to extending him and get the job done. Otherwise even that becomes an overpay.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 10:43 AM) To be fair, Gammons compared Fulmer to Scherzer mentally, i.e., both extremely intelligent individuals who can figure out how to overcome mechanical quirks. Gammons was not implying (and explicitly said so), that Fulmer had Scherzer's stuff. If Hahn can convince Duquette that Fulmer will be anything like Scherzer, maybe we'll see the dreaded 72 hour window.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 04:49 PM) Whats the point though? Could have just put him on the 40 man 30 days ago and DFA'd Alen Hanson. Clearly the Sox don't think much of him as a lefty reliever. To keep him as a LHSP in AA? Who would the White Sox have to send him back to?

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 04:46 PM) Can you pick your own guy? Yes.

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 01:48 PM) If Machado wants to be a full time SS should we pursue someone else? Arenado? Donaldson is already in decline I don't think so. He plays a good 3B, and if Anderson falls, Gives you a great backup plan at SS. At that point you go get an Arenado or Donaldson.

Yolmer Sanchez for Clint Frazier, Justus Sheffield, and Jacoby Ellsbury?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 11, 2017 -> 04:16 PM) The last 3 seasons Abreu has put up a combined 9.1 WAR. JBJ, 10.5. JBJ is cheaper and signed a year longer, and plays gold glove defense at a premium position. Normally, you would do this trade if it were available, 1 for 1, but if Abreu's leadership, something Hahn said is big, but won't trump production, and JBJ, taking a little step back offensevily last season, gets you another interesting prospect, you do it in a heartbeat. Bring Jose back in 2 years if he is still productive. But then you have the exact same problem you have now, a player who doesn't fit your contention window who you'll likely have to trade to get pieces that will help the rebuild. By 2020, Bradley is a 30 year old CF in the final year of arbitration who might have lost some of his defensive value and may not have recovered any of his value with the bat. He's then a free agent in 2021. The only way he makes sense as part of an Abreu trade is if you believe his defensive value will hold into his mid 30s and you sign an extension with him immediately after the trade.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 9, 2017 -> 10:14 PM) Are you actually comparing Cordell & Frazier as prospects? I mean, I’m a big Cordell fan but Frazier is on another level. Frazier may be a bit younger, but in a similar amount of AAA PAs last year, Cordell put up a .855 OPS to Frazier's .817. I think prospect hype may bee driving your opinion in this case.

QUOTE (Soha @ Dec 9, 2017 -> 07:46 PM) No thanks from the Sox perspective. The last time we traded for a Yankee prospect they were souring on, it didn't work out well from our end (yet at least). He's also 20 and in A+ and hit a lot of doubles. Converting gap power to over the wall power is sometimes a developmental step a prospect has to take.