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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 08:02 PM) Alright this is mostly just bulls***, but let’s say this is his team selection process: 1. Wants to hit most days when he’s not pitching (DH required) => eliminates 15 NL teams 2. Wants to join non-established or rebuilding team => eliminates HOU, NYY, BOS, CLE, MIN, KC, BAL, LAA, TEX 3. Prefers large city with respectable Japanese population => eliminates TOR, TB, DET 4. Prefers organization with both stability & upside => eliminates OAK 5. Prefers club without expansive history of Japanese players => eliminates SEA Theoretically that leaves us as the winner if money truly doesn’t matter! I like this and hope it is the logic he follows in his decision making process.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 07:09 PM) There is a quote from Hahn at the end. Certainly doesn't sound like a guy not interested, but probably realistic about his chances. There is a lot to sell if he is trying to make his own mark and RH and JR are contract geniuses. I am sure if he will listen they will talk to him, http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/11/14/sho...te-sox-pursuit/ Hopefully they make an all-out organization wide effort to sign him. The White Sox are the exact type of team he was described as looking for, and if he pans out, it accelerates the rebuild and extends the contention window that much more.

QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 06:38 PM) But he also said that if you think De Sedas can stay at SS, which the White Sox probably do because they have taken several guys with defensive questions, then he is the best of the three. Highest risk, highest potential. I'd prefer to get a more sure thing with a slightly lower ceiling, especially if the floor is much higher with less difference in ceiling.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 06:13 PM) http://m.mlb.com/news/article/261950410/wh...ctive-to-teams/ Goes on to list teams that could be a potential fit for an Avi trade. Anyone care to speculate what trade packages from those teams (Diamondbacks, Giants, Blue Jays, Orioles, Mariners, Rockies, Rangers) would look like?

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 14, 2017 -> 03:23 PM) Apologies for formatting here Chuck Garfien‏Verified account @ChuckGarfien 3m3 minutes ago More Aaron Rowand spent last week working with Luis Robert in the Dominican Republic. He RAVES about him. Sox fans will love this. Rowand on the White Sox Talk Podcast later this afternoon. Is Rowand getting involved with the org somehow? I think that would be a good thing, always saw him as an underrated quality player. He seemed to know the fundamentals of the game very well.

QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 04:41 PM) Longenhagen had another chat mentioning the 2018 draft. Asked to comp the shortstops in this class he compared it too the 2015 draft. Here's what he had to say: If he's giving Madrigal a Bregman comp, all the more reason to take him.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 05:46 PM) I hope we trade Avi to San Diego and are done with all the Avi talk regarding trades. He's one of my favorites and at least trading him to San Diego would make me forget about him. Let's face it. Sox are in a no win with Avi. Keep him and he does well and the money people will say, "Oh no. We can't afford him (as we save Jerry penny after penny)." Keep him and he reverts back, "See we should have traded high on Avi." I fully expect us to deal him at winter meetings or in that time frame. We'll probably get one good prospect, two fringe guys from somebody. I'd keep him and sign him to a nice deal but not earth shattering but like I said it'd be nice to not hear about trading Avi any more and if that means trading Avi, please do so. That's it! Trade him for Tatis Jr.! This board would explode, I think.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 04:32 PM) Bob Nightengale‏Verified account @BNightengale 2h2 hours ago Scott Boras says there have been no talks w #Nats about contract extension for Bryce Harper but he's willing to listen. The Nats ownership believe Harper in free agency would cost in excess of $500 million I doubt any team would sign him for more than 12 years or give him more than $40 million AAV.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 04:42 PM) I guess one way to operate under the radar is to not go see or scout the guy you are trying to sign. Like 16 other teams did?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 03:48 PM) There hasn't been a single public connection between the Sox and Ohtani. That doesn't preclude the possibility of the White Sox pursuing or signing him.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 02:26 PM) It was reported at the time of the showcase - which was some time ago so I do not recall. I'll pull a google search to see if I can dig it up thou. Rosenthal So more than half of the teams didn't attend, then? Because apparently every team has shown interest in him at the GM meetings.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 11:36 AM) Plenty of teams can offer his bat ABs. This is false. In fact being in the AL would cost him ABs because of the DH. If he started and the Sox didn't use the DH, you don't get the DH back once a reliever comes in. The Sox would either have relievers hitting or need potentially multiple pitch-hitters in a game if they went without the DH. If he went 6 innings, that is still 2ABs that need to be covered. If the latter were the case, they would need to carry a bigger bench than they have to cover the extra possibilities. So you have 1-2 games a week where you have no DH and have to use pinch hitters? I don't see how that's a big issue.

Fowler and Beck, please.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 11:16 AM) Everyone is "trying". Teams are trying to make an impression on the guy anyway possible. They are trying to figure out what the guy really wants in an MLB City and trying to sell that to his camp in anyway possible. He hasn't even been posted yet, so the fee hasn't even started to come into play. If "everyone" is trying, that would include the White Sox.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 08:08 AM) #1 is that we don't even appear to be trying. We haven't been scouting him at all at his starts. He had one total pitching appearance this year due to injury. Also, no one is "trying" at this point, "trying" would be posting the $20 million fee to negotiate with him.

QUOTE (Soha @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 07:15 AM) It would feel like a longshot in every possible way: 1) One of the worst teams in baseball 2) Weren't among the teams originally thought to be interested 3) A team that doesn't have a sexy ballpark, fanbase or history. What exactly is going to draw him here? Sure it's possible...but it feels like a 1 in 1000 chance at best. He doesn't seem to care about money and I've read that he's stated that he doesn't want to go to an established team. Combine those two factors, which scream White Sox, with the fact that the White Sox can afford him the opportunity to try to make it as a two way player (SP/DH) as well or better than any team in baseball, and that he'd still be in a major market in Chicago, it starts to make sense.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 09:29 AM) Don't forget repealing the AMT. Wouldn't want the wealthy paying their fair share.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 14, 2017 -> 11:46 PM) (And yet the Tigers were happy to throw that money at Justin Upton.) Well sure, because they just trade him, because the league always bails the Tigers out of their bad contract decisions.

Why is the attitude here so dismissive of this possibility? Can you imagine if the White Sox did land him and he lived up to the hype? Adding Otani to Rodon, Anderson, Moncada, Jimenez, Kopech, Giolito, Lopez, Robert, Hansen, Collins, Rutherford, Fulmer, Cease, et al would be a coup and I think accelerate the process of the rebuild and extend the timeframe in which we could expect to see results.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 14, 2017 -> 06:31 PM) Don’t know if this has been shared yet: https://www.thescore.com/news/1415026 I sure hope they're right. Otani is the only free agent I really want this offseason.

QUOTE (Quin @ Nov 14, 2017 -> 01:28 PM) Now an elementary school in Northern California got shot up Sadly not a mass shooting by current definition as only 3 died.

If he becomes available as a free agent, Shohei Otani.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 11, 2017 -> 08:29 AM) Sure. But the money is fairly limited because they are arbitration and not free agent years. The Sox won't destroy the system for an extension. Is there some rule that says that a player in arb years can't sign a frontloaded deal? I can't imagine the MLBPA allowing it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 10, 2017 -> 03:02 PM) An Abreu deal can't be front loaded. He still has two arb years left. An extension such as that would buy out the arb years.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 10, 2017 -> 02:21 PM) I'm just messing. Has time to improve I guess. But it doesn't seem like 1B is locked down for the Rox long term either. Which would be solved by Abreu. If they're trying to win now, Abreu makes sense. If they're not, they should and probably will hang on to McMahon.