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QUOTE (Marty34 @ Mar 26, 2014 -> 09:47 AM) Chairman Reinsdorf should sell the team if he can't figure out a way to grow revenues. Why? He's running a profitable business. He doesn't owe you anything.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Mar 25, 2014 -> 02:22 PM) I'm not making any prediction. Yeah, you probably shouldn't. You're going to want to be able to argue no matter what happens.

Between 60 and 100.

I still think he has some upside with the bat and he calls a good game. This is the perfect opportunity to find out one way or the other.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 13, 2014 -> 09:50 AM) Yeah, we need to get back to the Gordon Beckham sucks posts. Well, Gordon Beckham really does suck. He also has a big head with a tiny, squished face. He looks kind of like I'm on acid.

How can you guys argue about the same bulls*** over and over. This board's becoming redundant as hell.

If Garcia's power doesn't translate, I'd look to move him after a good season. I don't mind free swingers, but I don't like free swingers that are as reliant on speed as he is. He's too big to be able to maintain that speed for long.

QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 10, 2014 -> 09:58 AM) So Pizzollato specifically says the purpose was not to fool people, but it is great because it did a great job fooling people. It had a show packed with weird allusions to a grand conspiracy, and how do they resolve it in an hour? A lot of those "allusions to a grand conspiracy" were viewers projecting what they wanted the story to be. I got into it too, but it turns out, it was just a love story between 2 men with a serial killer subplot. I thought it was hilarious. The audience got trolled.

QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 9, 2014 -> 08:40 PM) Bummed at the results. Basically, they did a good job fooling you and it didn't meet the demands of what you wanted it to be? I thought it was brilliant in that regard.

Russia's obligated to protect their armories in the Ukraine. The last thing the world needs is for whatever weapons they have to find their way into the black market.

101-61.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 27, 2014 -> 02:39 PM) What about the warrior and incinerator? I was actually thinking about switching Incinerator for 1 of those days. I do like that workout. The Warrior kind of burns my legs out. I workout in the morning then go ride my bike all day.

Since I'm a cyclist and get enough cardio and leg work from that, I've been doing this lately. Challenge Yoga X3 Challenge Yoga X3 Eccentric Upper X Stretch (from p90x 1) My goal is to just be strong and flexible. I hate the agility work outs. They're tough on my knees and I have Robin Ventura ankle. I really love to do Yoga and the classic push up/pull up workouts. It keeps me motivated. Hopefully the a Yoga is enough core.

Dunn needs as many AB's as possible. There's still a chance he has a monster first half and becomes valuable. We're going to suck anyway. Give PK a couple home weekend games to do some cap tipping.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 19, 2014 -> 11:54 AM) John McDonald was and frankly still is an incredibly gifted defensive infielder. You keep changing your argument and words. I'm done with this. I've made my point and don't want to further ruin what should be a good thread. Maybe you should stop being so angry and actually try to comprehend. A review of the thread might help you. Cheers.

Lol. Why so angry? Who the f*** is John McDonald? I like the "towards the end of his career" lay down. So, you're saying Griffey regressed as he aged and was riddled with injuries? Brilliant. What else? My original Yankees post specifically was in regard to the "last decade," and I said as much. You know who I would take over Jeter? Ozzie Smith. A premium defender, at a the most premium position that could also hit a little.

If you think Jeter is even in the neighborhood of AROD defensively, there's no point in continuing the conversation. It's like you've never actually watched a game.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Feb 19, 2014 -> 10:55 AM) Can't win a game without scoring. One player effects a game on offense far greater than he ever could on defense and players have a hell of a better chance sticking in the majors by being an all bat, no glove player instead of an all glove, no bat player. I mean honestly, how many HOFers are there because of their defense? Even the ones that are, most were solid with the bat. Many, many HOFers are there solely because of their bat with no regards to their defense. While I'm not a Jeter fan, his bat was far more beneficial to the Yankees than his defense was detrimental and that's not even debatable. I never said Jeter was more detrimental than beneficial. I said to be among the best ever, you have to be a complete player. Jeter was a cornerstone player. It's foolish to build around a player that became so flawed.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 19, 2014 -> 10:43 AM) -Then Frank Thomas is not a top player. Babe Ruth is probably not a top player. Ken Griffey Jr is not a top player (talk about reputation being bigger than the numbers - after like '91-'96, his defense is severely overrated). -You are also saying you'd take prime John McDonald over prime Alex Rodriguez any day of the week. -You say that pitching and defense still wins championships, yet Jeter missed the playoffs twice in his career and has a fistful of World Series rings. Not sure if that statement helps or hurts your argument here. -Running Jeter out at SS obviously did not hurt them. Again, they missed the playoffs twice in his career and won 5 World Series titles. You're making very narrow statements that the facts simply don't support. Griffey wasn't a top defender? Arod wasn't a top defender? They were both among the most complete players of all time. Those are awful examples. Jeter's rings are mostly from when he was a decent defender, back when the Yankees weren't building teams on a calculator.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 19, 2014 -> 10:15 AM) It's not wrong. And that post had nothing to do with WAR or UZR or anything sabermetrics. It had to do with the Yankees bringing in old players and expecting them to perform well with Ichiro being perfectly symbolic of that ideology. I'm not defensive about anything other than my stance that Jeter was a below average defensive shortstop. Oh, and the idea that he wasn't a top 100 player (because he absolutely was and I feel as though I've thoroughly backed that). You can't be a top player when half your game is putrid. You have to have a complete game. It's incredible how much defense has become undervalued. I'll take a great fielding SS over a great hitting SS every day of the week and it's not close. Pitching and defense still wins baseball games and always will. If Jeter would have played 2nd or 3rd, the argument changes. But he didn't. They ran him out there at SS and he hurt his team. That's not my fault.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 19, 2014 -> 09:55 AM) No, what's been wrong with the Yankees is continuing to throw money at mediocre to old players and not looking for vast improvements when the opportunity arises. Ichiro is easily the best Japanese player in MLB history and one of the best of the past 15 years, but the fact that they ran him out for 555 PAs last year and apparently appear to do so again is far more problematic than using a good hitter and poor defender at an up the middle position. Wrong. Does anybody else find it ironic that imaginary wins fans are so damn "defensive?"

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Feb 19, 2014 -> 09:43 AM) There is just as much of all of those things in Illinois, if not more, than in Indiana. I don't live in Illinois, I live in Chicago.

Jeter represents what's been wrong with the Yankees approach over the last decade. They've accumulated the most imaginary wins in baseball with little regard to building an actual team. Continuing to run a bad defender out there at the most premium position is not a very good way to win big games. Call me old fashioned, but I'm building my team around a SS that can actually get to balls hit 3 feet to the left.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 19, 2014 -> 08:31 AM) That's pretty narrow minded though too, especially considering he has the 45th most fWAR of all time, even with shoddy defense. Frankly, he should have moved to 3B or 2B when the Yankees brought in Rodriguez, but it was "his" team and whatever, but this also shows the volatility of statistics like UZR. In '98, his UZR was 10.1. That's a full win earned due to defense. In '99, '00, and '01, he was hurting the team there (dropping as low as -16.4 in 2000), yet the Yankees made the World Series all 3 years and won it in '01, which goes to show that defensive deficiencies can be hidden. From '02-'04, he was back to being a positive player, '05-'07 was negative, '08-'10 was positive (and a 12.2 UZR as recently as 2009), and '11-'13 have been negative. Can players' defense fluctuate that greatly and that consistently over the course of a career? On top of that, Jeter is one of the greatest offensive shortstops of all time. He's 4th all time. The 3 "shortstops" with more? Honus Wagner, Alex Rodriguez (hence, the quotes), and Arky Vaughn. In case you're not keeping track at home, that's a player from the deadball era, a player who has been caught using PEDs twice and spent the second half of his career at 3B, and a player from the 30s and 40s who derived most of his offensive value from 6 seasons. On the defensive scale, he was probably a 40 at shortstop overall. Still, he never embarrassed himself out there, he was incredibly durable, and he played very good baseball 17 seasons. Frankly, because he was able to do all of that from shortstop leaves him much higher on this list than I think people are readily willing to admit. The guy was consistently good (and sometimes very good to great) for 17 years. TL;DR. I'll make this really short. Very good hitter. Awful defender. Yes, awful. Not among top 100 players of all time.

I don't need defensive stats to tell me Jeter was a statue. One game of the eye test will tell you that. I don't care how good of a hitter you are, if you play awful defense at a premium position, you aren't among the top 100 players of all time. He wasn't a lumbering 1st baseman. He was a SS. Not all positions are created equal.