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seems like Q has had some awful BABIP luck this year.

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 21, 2014 -> 11:11 AM) Caulfield-ed!!! Eh, nobody is holding a gun to Hahn's hand saying he has to spend the money (theoretically) saved from dumping another 6 million or so in salary on a mediocre starting pitcher. I hate to use this word because it's so generic and can mean anything -- but it gives the Sox flexibility. Say someone with a big salary becomes available via a trade, the Sox will have another 6 or so million on the table in order to make it work. As for the attendance stuff, if this fanbase is so fickle and stupid to turn out in even lower numbers because the Sox dumped Adam Dunn in a rebuilding year then I don't know what to say other then I hope they show up when they start winning.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 21, 2014 -> 09:51 AM) Considering the crap you give someone when they said AJ would make have made a big difference last year by pointing out his WAR, it is interesting you write there's no way the Sox are anywhere near where they are right now without Dunn in the lineup when he is sporting a 0.3 WAR. The DH penalty for WAR is extreme, probably a little too high. That said, it's pretty easy to find guys that can hit but can't field at all, and that don't make over $10 million a year. Dunn is hitting, hurray, it's only about 3 years too late. The Sox will trade him for an A ball pitcher or two and maybe some salary back and they'll call it a day. That's fine. If he wasn't hitting at all nobody would take him.

viciedo turning into a good hitter is kinda fun, we deserve something ffs.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 18, 2014 -> 03:22 PM) He needs to play more! We might as well see what we f***ing have with him. Start letting him play 2-3 times a week.

QUOTE (Jake @ May 18, 2014 -> 03:05 PM) Rock, can you explain the thought process behind "planned" DL trip? It would make perfect sense if they anticipated it but were keeping him out there in hopes that it might resolve itself. Simply pre-planning it would have to have some kind of personnel-related reasoning...ie, wanting to wait for Eaton's return or something There was no "pre planned" DL trip. The Sox had no handle on the injury at all. Now Jose needs an MRI. In Rock's world I'm sure they planned the MRI as well, like 2 weeks ago. It's ludicrous.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ May 18, 2014 -> 02:35 PM) I don't remember the baseball analyst who made the remark that Danks, as many pitchers returning from TJ type surgery, are afraid to let it air out when throwing that fastball. He though Danks had one of the best changeups in the game but until he stated to get at least a 10 MPH difference between the change and the fastball he was going to have trouble It would be awesome if Danks had TJ surgery as that's the elbow. Danks had a full capsule tear -- shoulder injury. You know the other guy that had that? Johan Santana. Danks is done in MLB he'll probably retire when his contract is over. There is no way the Sox could have seen the shoulder problem so I don't blame them for the contract. Hey Dick Allen, how's your boy Danks doing with that 88 mph heater today? Remember that cubs gsme when their AAAA lineup couldn't hit the exact same stuff? Turns out it was smoke and mirrors. Go figure. Gotta love Webb getting to be the fall guy too, god forbid we would over work our non pre-arb relievers. And Jose needs an MRI, yea it was clearly a planned DH trip. "It's not the type of thing that gets worse playing on it" said Jose and the Sox. Yea, that wasn't true.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 18, 2014 -> 12:04 PM) I think Rock is probably right that they suspected he'd need some time off to deal with this. I also think that, if they knew that, then putting him back out there every day and watching him get worse and struggle more was lunacy. Here is the inescapable conclusion from those assumptions, and it leads to only one thing -- someone getting fired. 1) They knew he'd need a DL trip 2) They knew he has an injury that only gets better with rest If those two things are both true, and they continued to play him, then guess what -- someone should get fired. I choose to believe the much simpler explanation that doesn't involve smoke and mirrors, just good old regular incompetence -- Jose talked his way into the lineup -- something that should never happen.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 18, 2014 -> 12:03 PM) They've known for quite some time he would have to take a DL stint for the ankle. You don't have to buy anything but it's the truth. Not everyone pays attention to the truth. Continue to LOL, how old are you 12? You sound like a 9/11 truther bro, no offense. I won't post anymore because it's obvious you aren't listening to reason. PRIMA FACIE what evidence do you see for your grand DL plan? On the surface, I see nothing, in fact what I see is bungled management by Robin in letting a player beg his way into the lineup and then aggravated the ankle. As I said, tendionus is from over-use. You think playing in every damn game helped? You are seriously off the deep end here they were planning a DL trip for a guy that continued to play every day with an injury that only gets better with rest? Well if that is true then everyone involved should be fired on the spot for incompetence. If what you are saying is true then why the f*** was he not on DL for the interleague series'? Your theory makes zero sense man, so now they get to lose Jose against much tougher competition so he could play ineffectively against worse teams? Come on, think.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 18, 2014 -> 11:36 AM) That had nothing to do with it. I mentioned an upcoming DL stint for him a week ago. See my post in the Abreu thread, you have to believe in a pretty awesome acting job and conspiracy by everyone involved to believe that. Jose was seen my multiple media members visibly distraught post game. That doesn't sound like a guy that was told he'd be going on the DL far in advance. People need to put down the Schneider cool aid, it's affecting common sense badly.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 18, 2014 -> 11:49 AM) So they've been planning a DL trip for weeks but kept on playing him? Not buying that. It's absurd on the face and I can't believe anyone is seriously gullible enough to believe that. How strong is the Herm Scheinder cool aid around here? As observers, this is what we have as the timeline: Spring Training -- Abreu battles ankle soreness in same ankle, club and player downplay it as "usual soreness" May 8th, Cubs -- Abreu "tweaks ankle" after the game Robin says he'll DH until it's better. ~May 12 -- Ankle isn't getting any better from the eye test (obviously hobbling badly down the line) Robin tells media the upcoming off game will "be a great time to get him two days off in a row" Present -- Robin does not give Jose any off days, ankle continues to deteriorate to the eye -- now he's hobbling badly after every swing. Gets so bad he's pulled for Konerko in a close game. Abreu goes on DL after game and is visibly upset post game as media has him sitting for around 15 minutes looking distraught at his locker post game. You tell me Rock, this is just some vast incredibly well thought out plan of action because it seems to me like a clusterf***.

Pretty obvious Ventura handled this the wrong way. Guess what causes Tendinitus? Over use. Abreu had played in every game coming into this series and he should have had two off days in a row, instead he's now on the 15 day dl. You guys can continue to defend Robin and talk about all the great work Chicago has done keeping guys healthy but guess what -- have you watched the last two seasons? It's not exactly like we are keeping guys healthy anymore.

great start, come on Sale get back healthy.

I caught parts of the game, seemed like Quintana pitched well, although once again struggled with economy of pitches. Abreu should have had the nite off, awful mistake from Ventura, again. And no, I'm not just doing this in 20/20 hindsight Robin told the media he'd have an off day and then didn't give it. Since when do the players run the clubhouse? And to confirm what most people already knew -- yep, Jose could have used the day off on a day the Sox were playing a bad team with a favorable pitching matchup. It's not a huge deal in isolation, but it's the pattern of mis steps that bothers me.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 16, 2014 -> 09:22 PM) What a bum he's quietly got his OBP down below 300 again. Dude just isn't that good, he had his little hot streak now it's over. He's a .5 to 1.5 WAR player, is what it is.

wimpy is like the ultimate hawk enabler, no wonder he enjoy doing games with him so much no matter what he says Wimpy back him up.

It's like Hawk doesn't know Tulo exists.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 16, 2014 -> 08:45 PM) Lazy defense by Viciedo gives them 2 in scoring position. Not quite sure why he's playing everyone on the warning track. This team looks so flat on this road trip. Good think Ventura's rip job fired them up...

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ May 16, 2014 -> 08:43 PM) Just shows how hard it is to find/develop a top SS. The reason not to be so eager to trade Ramirez. A player in A ball isn't a reason for anything to be done or not done at the MLB level. If some team wants to overpay for Ramirez you let them.

To be fair this, McHugh guy came in (albeit in 3 starts) with a k/9 of 9.32 and a FIP of 2.32. He's been tough so far.

eaton cannot get back soon enough, learn how to play CF de aza find the damn wall you had all day.

horse s*** call ump

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 16, 2014 -> 09:18 PM) Um Abreu, where are you Injured, he's hobbling around.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 16, 2014 -> 09:17 PM) Abreu hobbling up there. Two awful at bats by him. He's guessing so much. Inmates are running the asylum. Robin needs to be the damn manager and tell him to take a day off.

Jose needs to start taking some walks. Love the dude, but he needs to stop getting himself out.