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5 million is nothing if you've got a smoking crater at 3B and want a high floor guy assuming he stays healthy. His glove alone makes him a solid 3B even if he's hitting 250/300/360.

He's a star. In a big OF fully healthy he's saving you 20 runs a year. CF is slim pickings right now in MLB. There is no doubt he's a star and people trying to say otherwise are foolish.

He has 13 fWAR in 405 career games. He's literally the def of a 4-5 WAR player and we all know he has more in the tank performance was if he's fully healthy and protected in a lineup. I won't have this slander on Robert.

He's looking at 5 years 200 million if he pitches well again next year, at min. The best we could possibly do would be to offer him like 6/150 right now. I think he'd take it, but I know we won't offer it, even tho it would be a very fair deal for both sides. We're too cheap.

Let him hit the dance floor in Scottsdale. If he's good, he's ready to play.

It's back of a napkin math. I'd say it's going to be at least 15 million in 2025, who is to say it won't be 25 in 2027? Revenues are through the roof. Regardless, if the return isn't there, you just hold him.

He's like a 4-6 WAR player assuming he averages 130 games played. He's got basically 3.5 years left at 60 million. If you assume that cost of a win in FA is somewhere like 20 million these days you could project him for about 150 million in surplus value on the high end. You have to get like a top 10 guy and then two back end top 75-100 types for that imo.

Not even Boras can turn chicken s%*# into chicken salad. Good like Michael.

It's bad but as others have noted, it's not really the worst thing about him. The worst thing about him is that he's whistling past the graveyard regarding an 120 loss team while showing little if any baseball knowledge in the process. I can at times stand being talked down to by Stone, at least he knows a little baseball. But John? Hell no.

That's brutal. If that's the return you just keep him.

the average is trending towards zero in this case.

this ballgame is ovah.

oh yea good point, well, pedro 1, me zero.

that's the one thing I'd hammer him on. If a reliever is pitching well, just leave them in man.

that's what I'm saying. He doesn't have the plate coverage to just run into a lot of hits so he really needs to look to pull everything. And he doesn't have enough power or LA to make pulling everything a good hitter profile.

Vaughn at best tops out as a 770 OPS guy. He just doesn't have a lot of ways he can beat you. Not enough plate coverage, not enough raw power or batting eye to be anything more than average, at best up there. Why are we so fucking bad at Manfred ball bro?

Yea reality has set in. Nice back up catcher. Helluva arm. Him and Quero should be a pretty fun duo next year.

I like how he's all over Moldy for heating up. Bro he heating up to the tune of a 400 OPS. I recently watched a lot of Matas Buzelis tape and guess who the clown is on a lot of G League Ignite games? John. He's bad on hoops too. He's like a generic announcer you get from a bootleg video game when they couldn't afford the John Madden license.

Trade with Dombo. Dude is not afraid to trade blue chippers to get his guy. Gotta respect it. Wish he was our GM.

Free, YOU HAUL. Just like Beni.

I'm actively shopping my moldy 2nd refrigerator with a busted door.

This is the type of prospect the white sox have needed since the early aughts. We used to love trying out these types and although it hardly ever hit (Frank the one big exception and I guess TA for a minute, edit: also, Robert, who of course was a big KW scouting win) they do occasionally turn into superstars. If we had acquired him via some trade as a Tatis Jr like WC and he was doing this everybody would be going gaga. He's a nice prospect, probably will move into some offseason top 100 lists, no reason to really say much more or less at this time.

Hope Michael saved whatever money he's made. He's going to have a hard time dating even the C listers on a KBO salary.

well this thread is a bundle of joy.