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Spent like $150 bucks total on that crap last night. That's about all my budget has in it for the Sox this year.

Yikes. Colas in CF is not putting him in a position to succeed.

I was enjoying having an actual MLB LF, at least defensively. Bummer.

is there a chance he makes some midseason 100 lists or is the stink from last year still too much?

Yea, it was appraised as someone worth a 40 and 26 man spot before being re-appraised as a bad addition. You can't find that sort of commitment just anywhere.

That seems stupid. What a waste.

Says something about something that Ozzie is such a powerful figure around this franchise.

He def left a few changeups up right, that the scoreboard was classifying as "cutters" but they were just changeups up no? They were up but the velocity change was still fooling guys, Gio when he was on his game would get the same results even when he left them up. If the motion and everything is exact as the fastball and spin similar sometimes doesn't even matter if it's grooved.

Mixed signals in his underlying data. 31% pull rate, which is terrible and won't cut it. But avg LA up to 19, avg EV up to 91. He's obviously trying to hit more fly balls, but he's still fighting his swing. From the side profile his load is long and loopy. He's clearly trying to wring any and all power out of the body and frame he has, but he's got about another 100 games in MLB as a lock starter to figure it out. If he can close with like a 770 OPS for the year you give him another shot, it's it's closer to 670 probably not, not as a starter anyways.

Didn't see any toxicity but didn't see much positive vibes either. It was way too Church like in the dugout in general. Of course when you're on pace to set all time loss records and have blown over two dozen leads already it's hard to have a rah rah atmosphere. Again the one real exception was Lee. Dude was into the game all night.

It was such a terrible error by Lopez too he played himself into the intermediate hop and then just flubbed it. To his credit Thorpe didn't get flustered like we've seen from some of our starters over the years and just kept pitching. The play he came off the mound down the 3rd base line was pretty incredible. A rare moment where you see elite athleticism from a pitcher. He fired that ball falling away and put a strike to first. If he wants to have a higher ceiling he'll need to either gain a few ticks of velocity or really dial in a breaking ball. His floor however seems like a 2 WAR 4th starter that will give you a decent chance to win, assuming you don't have the 2024 White Sox team around you.

I really don't know what he was trying to do. I shouted "you're in over your head" and he was only like 25 feet away and he laughed and said something like "hey see me after the game" and smiled and made a thumbs up and then like he was going to sign something for me or something? I gotta say he was a good sport about it. I don't know it's hard to hate a guy that reacts that way to a heckle. I can despise him as a fan but as a person eh he seemed fine.

yea, very little if any Spanish heard out of the dugout. Colas clearly speaks a decent amount of English as he was speaking with the coaches and players. Sosa and Robert warmed up together but that just might be because they are the only guys that primarily speak Spanish among the position players now.

I should have mentioned that Julks seems pretty well liked and he mingled with everybody and was on the rail most of the game. Lee and Julks are the guys that talked the most on the position player side. Pitching wise Garrett was clearly the leader of the pack. Kopech wasn't in the bullpen for the first 7 innings and he was right in the middle of the dugout but was pretty quiet. At some point the guy next to me asked who the blonde was and I told him Kopech, but he meant the girl standing next to him...Sox have a woman trainer I believe in the dugout. As for Thorpe not talking yea pretty standard stuff for the starter, and if Martin was talking to him in the dugout I couldn't see that. After Martin made the last out I think in the 6th he took the entire commercial break and then some to get into his gear and out behind the plate. Lee ended up taking the warm up pitches. Martin really just looked past it his body is carrying an extra 10lbs he doesn't need as well it looked like. Certainly was filling out his uni.

was walking out as it happened. f*** that s%*#. was cold and last call was over. it was a blast for 7 innings.

Pedro actually made me laugh when I told him he was in over his head and he responded "hey find me when the game is over" with a wry smile. I wasn't sticking around for that s%*# but at least he had a sense of humor about it. Robert is done here. He warmed up by himself, was by himself in the dugout, and generally seemed displeased he was around this franchise. Deloach diving for that ball when he was 10 feet away is one of the funnier things I've seen live at a game. Sheets and the white guy pitchers are in a big clique in the dugout. After Vaughn hit his HR I was yelling "wow, he pulled it in the air, amazing how that works" and someone around the Sheets clique yelled back "wow we got a hitting coach in the stands" to which I replied "it's common fucking knowledge you hit for more power pulling the ball.". Didn't hear anything after that. Lee is super focused and engaged and also hit the piss out of the ball tonight. He's a keeper. He was on the railing all night and offering advice and trying to pick stuff up. Same with Colas. I told Colas the fans believe in him and want to see him out there and he nodded and gave me a thumbs up. He was watching video with coaches pre game. Martin warming up is hilarious. I've never seen a guy lob it around the IF like he does. He's clearly past it. Some stupid ass mariner fan gave me s%*# for heckling him. I told her dumbass I could go out and have a 225 OPS and you wouldn't have to pay me 3.7 million. She quieted down. Sosa doesn't have the tools to play a MLB 3B. Weak arm, average athlete. Some hard contact at the plate. His scouting report seems accurate as upside utility guy at best. Just not a good enough defender to carry his bat, but as a backup bat could play perhaps. Speaking of athletes, Lopez and Vaughn are two of the weakest, least athletic guys you'll find in pro sports. Lopez was also chatting with Pedro quite a bit. Like they were sitting next to each other most of the game. Lee is fast as shown on the SB. Vaugh has a crazy incongruitity in his bottom and top half that you can see on his side profile. His hands go in a loop and he's really fighting his lower half. He hits more weak opposite field fly balls than a guy with his talent should by then some. Hopefully he can figure it out it sure would be nice if he was a average regular. Katz wasn't really saying much to Thorpe. Thorpe in general seemed to have nobody in his ear or even patting him on the back (exception was Lee). The latter is strange imo. I think on a team like this guys are fearful and any decent new comer is a threat. Thorpe: solid. he's a pitcher, not a thrower, which alright, we can work with that if he can command his fastball more often than not. It's a little worrisome to sit around 90-91mph but coming from the left with his changeup as long as the results are there...His changeup was identical to his fb motion from what I could tell, really nice. Breaking ball wasn't there early or late. Fastball was there early but left late. But building blocks are there to work with. He had a lot of early contact (hat tip @Harold's Leg Lift) here for seeing the same thing on the broadcast on the raleigh gb. Even if guys were putting it in play, it was often weakly. Fastball got hit hard at times. Breaking ball just couldn't get over enough. Other random stuff: Jesus T-Mobile is a fucking rave now. Beers are more expensive in the good seats, sucks. 15 a pop up to 18 and auto 15% gratuity swung in your face. Nah sorry, zero tip at the ballpark, not if you only take plastic. Decent amount of Sox fans showed up. Guy in front of me was kinda a stiff but seemed to know a little bit about the team. Got a lot of nods when I held the "sell the team" sign up. Weather just brutal, again. There isn't a place in the US that gets more 54 degrees and chilly off the water days in summer. Even the Bay area and Chicago do better. Julio is an awkward player for the money they gave him. in person, Robert is smoother. Robert's ability in CF is insane. He seems to have a tracking beacon on every ball and then when he needs to he just glides. At the plate Julio and Robert are similar. Both guys tonight had no idea how the pitcher was going to attack them. The first AB 2-0 robert gets a fb down broadway from the lefty and just looks at it? Julio in his third AB just whiffing on changeups. I dunno, it's a hard sport and of those that have much, much is expected. As noted, Robert is an elite CF and maybe best in the game. If the Mariners did trade for him I'd imagine Julio moves to RF and then Robert DH 2-3 times a week otherwise. Julio was stupid fast down the line, his straight line speed is something but as noted he's kinda like a giraffe at times, especially on the bases.

left the game, it's fucking freezing. one of those nights you really wonder why you live here.

Awful body language

9 hits three runs because of course

Martin is so far past it watching him live. Insane a Sox scout thought he was a 4 million signing

We are safe bro

I will do a long recap but yea

f*** off martin

It was obviously falling just a bad read.

Completely misread it