Balta1701

I kinda wish I could believe the bolded, I'm pretty sure they stopped caring about that several years ago too.

Naw, he's just that unprepared. The best answer he has to anything is some version of "We'll figure it out in time" because he genuinely hasn't had time to work through these things, and in many ways he's not expected to, he's supposed to give appropriate deference to Reinsdorf making the decisions that he wants to make.

Naw, they've got a good amount of money to spend and have several decent prospects to trade. This roster is still awful, but they can get themselves up to a 65-70 win team on paper and that will be enough to convince some people that they've done a great job and are set up to compete in the Central (If people talked themselves into the 2023 white sox being competitive, they'll believe the same thing next year).

Try a Brewers game?

I'm trying to figure out whether Cease or Kopech has improved.

They’re in KC?

Dude, 2022, Robert. Wrist.

I'm more worried that they are determined to trade for Salvador Perez, and as a "Face of the Franchise" type guy the Royals will make the White Sox pay more in prospects than he's actually worth based on his contract and performance.

If you are having a hard time believing he was using, here's the spin rates. I could remove the X-Axis and you could literally pinpoint the exact day that the sticky stuff checks started. Cease and Lynn show similar drops, literally on the exact same series.

I mean, the biggest difference is that in the middle of 2021 his power changeup with the insane movement lost the insane movement. For a long time there, he was effectively successful as a fastball changeup pitcher because that changeup would break so hard it was unhittable. Once the sticky stuff ban was in place, that's the specific pitch he lost,. I still remember this one from the start of 2021, this changeup to finish the at bat was mind boggling. That was both his strikeout pitch and it was the one that made the high fastball effective.

3 fWAR pitcher this year so far so will probably finish over 3.5, 6 fWAR last year, going to average nearly 200 innings/year over a 3 year period since the pandemic, maybe his stuff has gotten worse this year and I haven't checked that? With how many teams need pitching, I can't imagine him going cheap unless something happens soon.

The one out of this that made me raise an eyebrow was Nola because he clearly is going to get a multi-year, 9 figure deal.

The big question is going to be how much long term damage they do while trying.

The fact that it was so weird is why putting him in the bullpen in 2021 was such a high risk move. He clearly benefited from building up innings in 2017 and 2018 as his control improved with extra work. Then, when we had the chance to get him more work in 2021, we declined. The possible downside of that was a guy who couldn’t find control, and that’s exactly what we have now.

I’m going to bet they spend more money replacing Zavala this offseason and get less production.

It also did not help that they put him in the bullpen in 2021 when his arm and body needed consistency and innings following a multi year layoff. This is also something they’ve done several times which contributes to the leaky pipeline.

Renteria was never going to lead the White Sox to a title. He did his job developing and getting them to the playoffs. It isnt soxtalks fault that the White Sox’s owner needed to replace him with pale empty husk of a coach.

I am looking at the big picture. I know I can’t fix everything, nor can any rule do so. But the Selig rule is a good thing. Teams should have to conduct fair and unbiased processes, they should not be allowed to choose someone who just happens to look like them through an unfair process decided before it starts Because then they will always choose the easy white guy, just like Reinsdorf is now doing. Jerry Reinsdorf was right, that rule was a good thing, which is why it’s so disappointing to see Reinsdorf turn his back in that progress and remove the diversity from his front office.

And I believe he found the one guy in the entire sport who was spineless enough to tell him what he wanted to hear, then made him the new GM.

And the White Sox are looking at a long rebuilding, hence why I still have no problem with the concept of moving a guy who you agree probably won’t have a long career.

The prospect has 6 years of control and is coming back from TJS.

Why am I singling out a dramatic shift on the part of the team I was a fan of for decades? Why am I calling out a guy who was on the record 10 years ago praising the work of the Selig rule at encouraging diversity who now ignores it himself as he removes diversity from his front office (seriously go check out his employees). Why don’t I complain more about bad behavior by the Mets on a White Sox message board? I’m very used to people trying to use distraction when they know they can’t actually support actions but totally want to, but “why are you stressing about the White Sox on a message board devoted to the White Sox” is rather impressive.