Balta1701

There continues to be an image of Steve Stone in the "posted images" frame next to this post.

I'll admit, I love the idea of Joe Willie Namath alongside General Grant accepting the southern surrender.

So you're saying Jerry Reinsdorf pays as few employees as possible and isn't particularly interested in the quality of customer experiences? Huh.

Naw, a whole bunch of people fully believed that the White Sox had a strong roster that would at least contend for the AL Central or even in some cases run away with it. Some of us saw how this was likely to go, but it wasn't a consensus.

Considering that the buyout is $5 million and the option is $25 million, what exactly are we talking about when we say "he's playing for a new contract" if he isn't trying to at least earn $20 million in that new contract? That's all the new money in there if the option is picked up. We're going to hold onto him because he'll be motivated by the prospect of a 2 year/$15 million contract and that makes him worth keeping?

I don't have access to their BP numbers, but both DRS and Fangraphs/UZR find them both to be positive defensive catchers. Hedges is a little more positive this year, but Seby was just as good last year. This isn't an upgrade worth any money.

Hedges is being paid $5 million this year and literally has a .454 OPS. This is a great example of why I say the White Sox should pair Lee with Seby Zavala next year, he's just as bad as Hedges, but he's also much cheaper!

That inning Neal Cotta pitched in game 1 was ROUGH. (He might be kinda referring to the El Duque game, but he didn't phrase it right).

"Guillen rides the bullpen hard in the playoffs" What?

Ironically he alone was an overpay for Shields.

I think a lot of people could “make a difference”. The White Sox operations have been awful top to bottom. With the financial advantages they have over the division, if they just had an average GM who set up a normal scouting, development, and operations system, with people doing their jobs and limitations on ownership interference, that’s a regularly competitive organization.

He wouldn’t be playing for a new contract though, he’d be playing for an admittedly pricey 1 year option being picked up.

Chris Sale and Patrick Corbin are potentially two high names on this list.

The Nats were going to fall off pretty quickly, that was basically written in once they lost Harper and Rendon, they had spent a ton and were getting to the end of their run. It was a lot like the Tigers in our division or the Cubs, staying in contention for years is tough. I don’t blame them for that, and rebuilds take several years. There’s even some deserved credit for being willing to sell Turner and Scherzer Defoe top dollar when they did. That Strasburg deal was something else when they signed it though.

And I would say that it's quite inappropriate for a baseball setting and this is a reason why I think Moore has had specific actions that call his judgment into question. But at the very least, it's not just because he's a christian, as you have pretended it is.

You avoided answering the question. Is this appropriate for a general manager of a baseball team?

Should a GM arrange for his players to hear an anti-porn seminar based on that GM's religious beliefs?

As the linked article notes, requiring these interviews was associated with a rise of the number of minority employees in key front office positions from 4% to over 20% in the first decade or so that it was present. While you cannot count a specific one who would be hired, what you've basically required is fair and equitable processes where people are given even and equitable opportunities. If actions were taken the way Jerry Reinsdorf hired LaRussa, that number would have remained 4% or maybe even gone lower. It is specifically there to make it so big league teams conduct proper and fair processes because the type of backdoor deals that got LaRussa hired always manage to advantage the 1980s status quo, that's why they needed to be stopped and replaced with fair and equitable processes. Without fair processes, teams will default to hiring the guy who looks like their owner even if someone else is equally qualified or more qualified. The White Sox in 2020 did not do a fair and equitable process, they set out with a goal and it was not a coincidence that it wound up racially biased. If Nightingale is correct, they are setting themselves up to do exactly that again.

His professional record includes these facts, that's the problem. He brought this into his profession with the seminar, so he did that openly and it's on the record, and there is a very strong suggestion that he let his religion influence his decision making when it came to players. When you're saying you base this on his record, his inclusion of this stuff in his baseball work is part of that record. When you allege people are opposing him because he's a christian, which you've done, you are bypassing this as a key part of the problem. I would not be saying anything about his religion in this discussion if he had not given us reason to with his official actions.

No. Even if the White Sox did everything right, they are years away from actually being competitive. 2025 would take a huge amount of development, an almost unbelievable amount given that many of these players were drafted by Hahn and company. 2026 might have an outside shot, 2027 more likely - in either case, we'd be relying heavily on players who aren't in the system or organization at this time.

If one of these roles was filled externally, and there was a quality process for both that did not seek to circumvent league rules, I could potentially be persuaded to give them more of a chance as well.

Rosters expand in a week right?

I have to disagree with this one, and this is from a person who always complains that the White Sox call people up too quickly. This is a guy who had plenty of development time in the Astros system. He had his first appearance at AAA back in 2021, and has over 800 plate appearances there on offense, he's listed as playing nearly 200 games there, all at AAA. You can quibble with bringing him back as the return for Graveman, his problem with the Astros is that he has been passed in quality and performance by Yainer Diaz so he has legitimately no role there and he isn't viewed as a sure fire guy, but it's totally worth the White Sox trying him out now that they have him. He was on the IL when the Sox traded for him, but if he's healthy and had enough time to rehab, there is zero reason to keep him in the minors any more and he should absolutely be in the big league catching rotation all of next year if healthy. The odds may be against him working out, but he's definitely worth a shot.

Didn't Perez allow a nearly infinite number of stolen bases during the Seattle series?

He's met his quota so he gets an exemption from the rules and can hire all the mediocre white people he wants. That's how it works.