Balta1701

Rule check here - if a guy has signed a full free agent contract do options still do anything?

You should check again on the results after the Samardzija trade. You have missed an important point.

While True, I'm also going to note that I reread the Samardzija trade thread this year and there was one person who said "This is still a below .500 team and I am skeptical about this deal". That opinion was not popular at the time.

Again, doesn’t “they need to find out rather quickly who can hit” mean specifically that Rojas is in the way? As a veteran he will get at bats before Sosa and Vargas.

People said that coming into 2024 too.

It doesn’t seem like they’re going to see this to me? It seems like those guys are being gradually blocked.

Rojas made $3 million last year so this has to be for Nicky Lopez money right?

Just to stress this, it was always ok to give away 6th round draft picks and 18 year old international signees, it never hurt the White Sox...until an 18 month stretch from 2015-2016 where suddenly it wasn't.

Awesome, since he was paid only $1 million, a couple million in marketing is a big gain. I'm not making any mistake here.

Wasn't it a 5 player trade? There's someone missing from this list, I wonder why.

Where would they have been had Reinsdorf not bought a team that already had the greatest player in NBA history?

Didn't we just have a whole thread about how there wasn't room in the bullpen?

1. “Baseball strategies were better in the 1990s” is a plan that might have worked in 2005. Coming out of the Steroid Era, only the start of the Moneyball era of GMs getting smarter, well before the Strikeout era we are in now. It is now well out of date. 2. Kenny Williams wasn’t the best GM in the sport, but he was pretty good. Aggressive strategy, employed some good people. It worked pretty well for years, until personality conflicts worked their way in. That may be a message about his later years, guys who he trusted when they had success became full of themselves and has no leadership from the owner. 3. I think we all know the Jerry Krause story. The Pippen trade was brilliance. Bringing in Phil was brilliance. Grant, Rodman. Some of the historically best moves ever in basketball. Dismantling the team so he could get more credit for rebuilding it was unchecked arrogance, and again Reinsdorf let it fester. 4. Jerry Reinsdorf bought a franchise that already had Michael Jordan. His story is very, very different without that one key detail.

If he accidentally causes Montgomery to have to go to Charlotte for a few weeks, so much the better.

I'm betting that Getz thought he could trade that money to the team signing Sasaki, then Sasaki came in for the January and later signing period. What else could they have thought they might use it for other than signing players?

I do think there's a bit of "Jesus both of these guys are ridiculous this year, but Lamar has 2 MVPs and Allen has 0, so Josh should win 1". But, remember the year McNair and Manning split one? I'd be ok with that. When you can give a list of QBs who have done this, and the list is literally "Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson in 2024", how do you give Lamar a 3rd MVP and say that Josh still is a 0-MVP player?

I'd just like to make sure of something - is your entire argument against him that "He ran into the Golden State Warriors"? For reference, the guy who built the Warriors, Bob Myers, retired over a year ago. And yes, he spent 10 years as the best exec in the league. No, Presti should not have been ranked above him, but he retired.

Weirdly I'm with this one - AS LONG AS they are careful about innings limits. If either of them comes out and spends the first couple months simply better than AA hitting, I don't want them kept in the minors. They do have to be careful about innings, I can't say that enough, and I have no confidence in Katz doing this yet so he has to actually manage a pitcher to avoid me complaining more, but if AA hitters are hitting sub-.200 against either of them, bring them up after a couple of months and let them see big league hitters.

This is referring to Schultz right? If they’re at least thoughtful about it I’m ok with seeing him up this year - I think there’s a great blueprint last year in Skenes, although he did have a season with more work. Start him off slow at AA with an innings limit for the first 2-3 months then call him up if healthy and let him have half a season, again being conservative with his innings and occasionally skipping a start? I’m ok with that. 130-140 innings or so with 70-80 in the big leagues? Good setup. The Crochet “let er rip and hope for the best” plan, which we will probably see, I’m less ok with.

But their drafting strategy has changed so much. Kenny Williams was focused on drafting athletes, Rick Hahn is after more complete ball players. This will be a major upgrade.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/43082037/dodgers-mets-yankees-top-mlb-record-9-luxury-tax-offenders For the 15 or so revenue sharing teams that’s about a $10 million check this year.

But because it’s value has been dismantled, if you are looking to buy a team and move them, they are also clearly movable.

I don’t think so? This market for pitching seems “normal”, teams are giving guys contracts that mostly make sense. The only contract where I’d say the money made no sense was Snell. Money for pitching is mostly coming in where you’d have expected contracts to start the offseason, and Getz deal for Crochet, on paper, seems fair.

I don’t see how you can say the only team the Sox could operate like is the Braves. If we look around the league there are tons of strong markets that aren’t the Mets, Yankees, or Dodgers, where teams regularly make the playoffs and occasionally win titles. If we go through the biggest 8 metro areas, we have NY, LA, Chicago, DFW, Houston, atlanta, and Philly. Those teams don’t make the playoffs every year, they have rebuilding stretches, but aside from 2 teams, they have multi year playoff runs and occasionally win titles. Good enough should be the Phillies or Rangers or Cubs or Astros. The only teams in big markets that stand out as different are the Angels and White Sox. Once you get to metro area 9 you get Miami and they’re the first actual team in a big market that acts small.

Another guy to the Dodgers? God this is terrible for baseball.