Balta1701

Worth noting, Cease, Giolito, and Lynn received on average between 4.96-5.18 runs per game. This was in the top 1/3 of MLB run support. Cueto received 4.15. This was in the bottom 40%. (Kopech received Quintana like run support last year and that won't be discussed because blah).

They were on pace to be a few games over .500...and they had the run differential of a 77 win team pretty much the whole year.

Everything that could go wrong did go wrong. Except: -They picked up Johnny Cueto off the scrap heap and found their second best pitcher of the season. The only reason he was even available when he was signed was the lockout. Had Lance Lynn not gotten hurt, they never sign Cueto - who outperformed everyone other than Cease in their rotation. They had a replacement for Keuchel because of this. -They picked up Elvis Andrus off the scrap heap and got 2 months of darn near MVP performance from him. He was a notable upgrade over Tim Anderson for those 2 months, they got better because Anderson got hurt. We will probably never see that kind of upgrade from a midseason veteran put on waivers again in our lifetimes. -Seby Zavala, per innings played, was one of the most effective catchers in baseball. Effective offensively, avoided some of the defensive issues that plagued him in 2021. This combined with McGuire turned the White Sox' -The guys they brought in off the scrap heap were so effective that it basically offset almost all of the losses to injury (except for the stupidity with Robert's wrist). Had they been the healthiest team in baseball, they're basically the same team in the end, because of how effective these guys were. -They weren't all that banged up anyway compared to the rest of the league. For example, "the White Sox had 3 pitchers hit the IL" compared to "Detroit's entire opening day starting rotation was on the IL when we faced them for a 3 game series. Ponder what the White Sox's losing streak would look like if they lost all 5 starters for a month. -Their competition was weaker than expected, particularly Detroit because of how banged up they were. 19 games against that banged up Detroit team. They outscored Detroit 100-59 on the season. -They outperformed their run differential the whole season. Say what you want about ineffective management, this is generally a sign of luck that can't be easily repeated. -Their bullpen performed extremely well in close games. Their record in 1 run games was top 5 in baseball, tied with Cleveland for that performance. This was notably better than their performance in the same type of games in 2021 and will be particularly difficult to repeat now that Hendriks is out for the year.

I gotta give this round to B>W. “No Sox games, none” is a little too precise when the first game is a national broadcast.

If Sheets makes the OD roster (and there’s no injuries) then to me that means Colas didn’t.

As of right now I don’t see who takes Romy or Sosa’s spots on the big league roster? 4 man bench is “insert veteran replacement outfielder here”, Romy, Leury, and Zavala.

This reminds me of that guy who bet $1.4 million on the Jaguars to lose when they were down 27, would have won $11,500 had he won, and lost the $1.4 million when they came back.

The rumor was he was asking for 2 years and $30 million total, which is just a little higher than what Quintana got. It's a bit high for him but not vomit enduringly high compared to the market the rest of the offseason. If another pitcher or two get hurt before March, he'll probably have enough interest to get close to that. It wouldn't be unreasonable for the White Sox to sign him today for close to that, but we know why they might not do so.

Who? I've got a couple of "debatable" names, probably topped by Quintana.

This would…not buy that much excitement?

I mean, the answer is “because the Charlotte roster is a wasteland and since there’s no talent there these guys are likely to be on the big league roster when people get hurt, rather than actual prospects.”

So this guy is on steroids too?

I got the Saints/Payton and the Texans/Ryans alerts on my phone like 5 minutes apart, this is usually how black Monday goes lol.

It is somewhat surprising that a week has gone by since the Clevinger article was published and they haven't made any move to add a veteran option.

They could but that costs money. The best available other than Bauer is probably Michael Wacha, who it's been reported is seeking roughly a 2/$30 deal. Beyond that you have guys like Dylan Buddy, Chris Archer who had ERAs in the mid to high 4s last year and pitched maybe half a season or so and you get worse from there (Chad Kuhl, Mike Minor, Anibal Sanchez)

So that's the "insider word"? I'm actually interested in hearing that this time as we haven't gotten that insight yet and they haven't made any real moves to cover the hole.

I have no idea what reporting is available to the league, but if they did a good investigation they should be looking for other people to talk to like that. A whole bunch of people have asserted that there is no evidence whatsoever, that this is a "he said she said" case which is simply false when there are at least photos, which count as physical evidence and could be examined by a medical professional if needed. There is absolutely guaranteed to be metadata on those photos marking when and where they were taken, your phone does that as well. Rabbit suggested 40 games yesterday. I've been suggesting 85.

No, the fact that it's a lie does though.

I am officially tired of hearing how photographs are "circumstantial evidence".

Photographs and statements from doctors are not considered circumstantial evidence by a court of law. Furthermore, in addition to photographs, circumstantial evidence can be admissible and can support that evidence. MLB specifically has the authority to act and suspend a player regardless of the determination of the legal system. This is 100% explicit in the Domestic Violence Agreement. Baseball is a business. They have rights to protect their business from employing people who abuse women and children that go beyond the requirements for the legal system. Now please stop making me google this.

If the 2020 White Sox signed a guy to a minimum contract who was previously a top 10 prospect in baseball, who had 2 years of arb-eligibility remaining, and who had put up 11.8 WAR in 5 seasons and a .699 OPS the previous year while playing solid defense, I'd have probably called that the best signing of the offseason if there wasn't any other issues.

“Here are photos. The metadata on them will give dates and geotag them to a house owned by Clevinger. I went to a doctor afterwards you can talk to them here, here’s my mothers number I confided in her afterwards, here are the names of three friends I told about what happened, here’s the receipts for the date I contacted a lawyer, here’s my therapist’s information I give permission for them to share details with you, and here’s the name of two of his ex girlfriends you can try to contact them also.” Soxtalk: “how will we ever find corroborating evidence this is the definition of a he said she said case.”