Balta1701

We don't know this. What we do know is Getz took a terrible offer for Fedde, but we've heard that Getz had recommendations saying "take that offer". Even the sycophantic insiders haven't come out and said "all the other offers for Fedde were garbage", they said that about Cease when trying to defend Getz taking that offer.

More entertaining I think is “would you trade Crochet for the return Cease got”?

There’s a lot of Ben Johnson commentary around already, can anyone recall one assistant coach being linked to another team this early in the process? If so, did it actually happen? https://beargoggleson.com/nfl-insiders-makes-bold-guess-about-next-chicago-bears-head-coach-01jbyxc1z359

Translation: Of course our staff will still be tiny.

No but his time at Birmingham where he put up a WHIP of 1.35 in the 2nd half isn't likely to boost him in any rankings made my an independent viewer.

Since the bummer trade?

There's going to be plenty of guys available where plausibly tolerable relievers could get themselves $3-$5 million without it being with a playoff team.

I have never seen a first round draft pick pitcher abused the way the White Sox did this one. Multiple elbow injuries, velocity drops that were ignored, guy forced to come back way too early from TJS leading to more injuries. If he comes out of that still surviving, he should 100% care about getting contract security.

I think Garret Crochet is dead set on getting paid a fair contract, and after how he has been treated in his career I totally understand that. THat's how he acted this season, if the White Sox want to pay him a fair contract then he would consider it. A fair contract, for a starter who could genuinely be an all star multiple times during the contract, would be well over $200 million at this point. If the White Sox don't make that kind of offer, then it's not a serious bid. If they make an offer like Strasburg's final contract, that's both a serious offer and one that would get Crochet's side's attention.

Philly would be intriguing to me because they definitely have the resources to make a deal done, they would be highly motivated given that they've been in the playoffs but haven't finished the job, and they have a pretty substantial payroll and are likely already in multi-year taxpayer territory so a cheap guy could be extra useful to them as they could use money elsewhere. That said, Philly seems to have a habit of making decisions and getting things done, particularly with their rotation. They might have overspent on Nola last year but got him done. They didn't let Wheeler get to FA, and when they originally signed him it was early in the offseason. Trea Turner signed at the winter meetings. Trying to wait and hoping to negotiate through leaks to make a better offer appear probably won't work with them, if Dombrowski gets told no at an offer he is willing to make, he probably moves on.

25 as in the year 2025, not $25.

Even in the ideal situation where Crochet stays healthy and productive for years, this calculus doesn't change. 1. The White Sox have clear payroll limitations. Crochet would be ~30% of their projected payroll the next couple years if extended. That is money that could be used somewhere else. 2. The White Sox system is bereft of talent across the board. They are limited in what they can do to fix this through the draft. Bringing in players, even players who are a couple years away, via trades, is basically their only way to make a dent in this problem. The money spent on Crochet can help with this also, if people who are brought in are later traded for low-level minor leaguers. They shouldn't take a crappy deal for Crochet, they have the option to hold him to the trade deadline. However, they are a worse team spending $200 million to extend Crochet than they are moving Crochet and having both a return for him and more money to spend.

He wouldn’t. Taking back the non tender guys still looks worse in hindsight.

Kiley McDaniel has Moncada with a 1 year $12.5 million projection.

Obviously the solid pitching coach and development staff of Bannister and Katz, or so I’m told. It’s why the pitching performed at the level it did this season.

Or he just has gotten much more emphatic folks to praise his press releases.

All Glory to the HypnoGetz.

Bummer had $14.75 million in option years at the back of that contract. The Braves got him to agree to 2 years, $13 million, suggesting they probably would have picked up the option.

Both Soroka and Lopez were about to be non-tendered by the Braves, and especially Lopez could have been had for cheaper if the White Sox simply waited for him to be non-tendered and jumped on him with a $3 million contract offer. But at least Getz has no spending constraints, and we know from the last GM that wasting money in down seasons isn't a problem that ever comes back to bite a White Sox GM in the tail.

I know Poles likes giving up 2nd rounders, but 3 picks in the first 2 rounds seems darn useful to this Bears team. Moreso than taking on salary this year.

It's a little weird to grab this guy aggressively with a roster spot now when he's coming off TJS, so basically you won't actually get to see him do anything before you decide whether you need the roster spot. In terms of churning, this is a little off - unless they just really like the guy.

Decent K rate but otherwise his 2023 numbers look ugly. Was he down for TJS in 2024? Yup, missed 2024 for UCL Reconstruction. That makes this a little weird.

If the Bulls hang around .500 and around "would be in the play in tournament" again, what are the odds that they stand pat at the deadline?

Current White Sox guaranteed money: $17.1 million Benintendi $15 million Robert $5 million buyout Moncada $500k buyout Stassi $37.6 million there. Possible arb guys: Lopez - would probably make $5.1 million. Vaughn - would probably make $6.4 million. Crochet - estimate of $2.9 million. Sheets - $2.6 million. Flexen - arb eligible but no estimate on that page, maybe like $3 million? Worst possible setup looks like the White Sox have $56 million committed if they keep everyone, less if they cut or trade some of the arb guys.