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QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 02:43 PM) Rosenthal is a guy I have always trusted. That could be a bad thing, but I have always liked him. It will be interesting to see if Williams does in fact make a move quickly. I was sort of under the impression that you should wait to see where the dust settles when the bidding is over for Maz/Zito/Schmidt, and try to get alot out of the losers of those deals, but Williams has not been one to wait around. I have 100% faith in Kenny, and now expect a deal to get done shortly... It may very well be up to other teams to determine which is the best course. Some team may go all out and offer up prospects/great talent at the start because they'll worry about another team landing Garcia, while other teams may wait until the other 2 big names have been taken off the market just to see if they have a chance. KW has to set a price and wait for it. If no one meets it, then drop the price a little late in the Winter. If someone meets it early, be aggressive and take it, because the offer could disappear. QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 02:39 PM) For some reason I still don't think Jose Contreras has a no trade this year, but I know Gene has posted otherwise (and usually he's right 99.9% of the time on stuff like that). MLB.com

QUOTE(beck72 @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 02:24 PM) The post was about what to do with Neal Cotts. Maybe you got the wrong thread Well said. Thornton could be a one yr wonder, and then the sox would be back to square one with no reliable LHP for the pen. Though I do want to correct a small part of your post Neal was good for the first half last yr. So he's had 1 1/2 good seasons not just one. He had a 2.95 ERA at the break last yr, which I linked in my 1st post. Few teams will overpay for Neal with his horrible 2nd half of 06 and only 1 consistent season. Most teams will try and low ball KW. He shouldn't and probably won't bite. First of all, I seriously disagree on the idea that a guy whipping it up there at 98 from the left hand side will regress next year. I just don't see Thornton doing that at all. Secondly, look what the Red Sox gave up for Javy Lopez. No, not the catcher. People will give up a ton for lefty relief pitching, even if it is off a down year.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 02:15 PM) As for JD Drew. I find it extremely hard to believe that the Red Sox would be so cautious to give Johnny Damon 4 years and 40 million yet are going to give Drew well over the 3 years and 33 million dollars he left on the table. It just doesn't make any sense. How much stock does Theo put in Depodesta's computer?

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 01:27 PM) What the Dems want (at least the hard-left) is Murtha. What should happen is Hoyer, for many reasons. Murtha's congressional vote scorecards from interest groups in the last few years as they've been issued.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 01:07 PM) It's the smart move (Hoyer), but Nancy is showing her true colors, already. Murtha is actually quite a bit more Conservative than Hoyer on most issues, aside from the Iraq war. This is almost certainly much more a result of the fact that Hoyer and Pelosi were quite bitter rivals, with Pelosi winning, during the vote for the Democratic Whip position in 2001, which after Gephardt lost again put Pelosi on the pathway to the speakership. They've been rivals for quite a few positions while in the minority as well, which has only deepened the divide between them. Hoyer's opponent would probably have to be Zell Miller before Pelosi would support Hoyer.

QUOTE(WCSox @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 01:08 PM) +1 Given Logan's lack of experience and his not-exactly-stellar numbers last season, you keep Neal around until his cost exceeds his performance. But...that also adds in the cost of whatever you could get for Neal on the trade market.

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 11:48 AM) Hasn't announced yet though. And with McCain jumping in - officially - so early, it might suck a lot of support away from a Frist run. That & the whole stunning defeat of his party in the Senate...

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 11:30 AM) Doesn't Burrell have a full no-trade clause? And I do NOT want Vizquel back, Rowand maybe, but only because of past history. We can do better than those two. Much better. Yes. And reportedly, he's very loathe to waive that clause, although there's some rumblings he may be interested in going to the Bay Area.

QUOTE(R.Sweeney @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 11:46 AM) Dont see Cashman going for that either .You shouldnt ink Crede just yet til his back situation is has gotten better . We still have from now til the end of the 07 season to see how his back turns out . The sooner you sign Crede, the lower his cost/year.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 09:55 AM) It sounds like Vernon Wells is out there... just sayin. It also sounds like Toronto is looking to add a bat, not subtract one, but who can say. I will say that I enjoy the thought of seeing Hafner try to find a way to double into the gaps with an outfield of Wells, Anderson, Dye.

QUOTE(ptatc @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 09:30 AM) Exactly!!! The AL central is going to be tough next year. I don't think the wild card will come from our division becasue thre will be 4 teams in great competition. The other divisions have to play the Central too.

Something will go down soon involving KW if history is any guide. And I hope to God it doesn't involve CF.

QUOTE(Chet Lemon @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 09:25 AM) trade iguchi & dye to the yankees for cano and melky cabrera, then use the money saved from the trade to acquire a proven bullpen cornerstone and ink crede to a long term deal. By my count, the Yankees already have 3 starting outfielders not including Cabrera (or williams for that matter), and at least 1 DH, if not a couple.

QUOTE(beautox @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 07:23 AM) Agreed, take him away from petco, in the tribes line up and a year under his belt, hes definatly going to be a pain, him and garko. And Choo, and Hafner, and Martinez, and Sizemore...eek.

Honestly, unless he's badly hurt, I still think that the best option as a 2nd Lefty may actaully be Logan. Cotts is nearly to Arbitration, which means his cost will start going up a lot in the next couple years, and he still has significant trade value after his 05 campaign. Logan is also several million dollars cheaper than bringing in a FA like Walker would be, money which I would rather see spent on 1 m ore Righty setup man. Having seen Logan pitch, I still think he has the stuff to make it in the big leagues, he just needs to get his head in the right place and learn how to not be scared/just throw strikes when he faces people. That's something that can be overcome. And happily, he'd only be our #2 option out of the bullpen for lefties, since we still have the guy firing the cannon from the left side. You stick another experienced righty setup man in that bullpen to go along with the 3 flamethrowers, and stick in Haeger and Logan as your last-guys out, and I think you do surprisingly well.

So that's what it looks like when the Giants start to come apart.

Wow. 1 more of those and the Bears will be able to take out a patent on 108 yard returns.

Russ Feingold will not run for the Democratic nomination in 2008, electing to remain a Senator.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 11, 2006 -> 06:08 PM) Yea, 'cause it's only Republicans that are unethical... as always. I'm too lazy to look up the logical fallacy here. "The Republicans have terrible ethics problems which are vastly worse than those of the Democrats = the Democrats have no ethics issues"?

Senator Menendez of NJ is facing a new round of subpoenas in a possible corruption case. Supposedly the prosecutor running this case is actually one of the Bush pioneers, but presumably he wouldn't be a federal prosecutor potentially going after a Senator if he didn't believe there was something there.

Gas prices go down every fall as companies are able to switch to cheaper gas blends with higher vapor pressure, and start to go back up in the winter as things get cold and heating demand goes up. This is the normal yearly cycle the way the market is set up right now. It just so happens that elections are in the fall too, so people jump to conclusions.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 11, 2006 -> 09:44 AM) One way Bush could get himself some positive feedback from the public is if he created the agency by executive order, and then dared Congress to vote it down. Or, pushed it through in the lame duck Congress. Either way, he puts Congress on the spot. You're assuming that Bush would actually be willing to do something that could hurt his own party...had there been an actual ethics process running for the past 4 years, it would have been a disaster for the Republicans.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 11, 2006 -> 07:31 AM) I place almost no value in individual prospects, so get a bunch of them and hope one pans out. There is no guarantee that any of these guys will make the 25 man roster, or once there have any impact. If we are scoring who wins this trade in 2007, I'd say Detroit. Perhaps down the road, if one of these guys pans out, the trade will need to be rethought. But I don't think the Yankees lineup is better without him. These guys didn't play for the Tigers. He's an upgrade for what they had. For that, I like this trade for Detroit. A lot of that is going to depend on the health/growth of their rotation. Detroit does have a lot of options at starting pitcher, which lessens the pain somewhat, but they still gave away one of their best backup plans for this season. Especially if injuries or regression hits any of those guys a bit.

Quite an intelligent move. Reward a guy who helped them get a title, and keep a solid lefty bat in the lineup behind Pujols. But it hurts them a lot of course if he can't stay healthy.