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QUOTE(kwolf68 @ Oct 23, 2006 -> 01:11 PM) Wow....Better hope we don't face many lefties. Don't worry, there aren't any quality lefties in the AL Central.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Oct 23, 2006 -> 10:54 AM) Rogers is a first class piece of s***. That was on his hand too.

QUOTE(fathom @ Oct 23, 2006 -> 10:05 AM) Listening to Buster Olney this morning, the substance was almost definitely pine tar. Before the game, Olney asked a few Tigers pitchers how do they cope with the cold weather, and they said they put pine tar on their fingers. Then, they quickly told Olney not to print that. Rogers is a massive piece of s***, and this is going to taint the Tigers World Series Championship if they happen to win. That's the veteran knowledge and presence that Rogers has brought to their rotation.

QUOTE(TheBigHurt @ Oct 23, 2006 -> 10:03 AM) If JD gets traded, I'll cry. I would be sad also. But that wouldn't make it the wrong decision if the right deal came along.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Oct 23, 2006 -> 09:31 AM) You are for trading the MVP of the 2005 world series, and a MVP runner-up in 2006 because his value is high. Why? Why do you trade someone just because his value is high? Can KW replace his value in the lineup? Does he have someone waiting in the minors to replace him in RF? But see, that's exactly the point! The White Sox don't have anyone in the minors who can replace Jermaine Dye right now, and at the end of 2007, the White Sox are going to have no choice but to find someone who can replace Jermaine Dye, because he's a free agent. We just can not hold on to all of these guys and give each of them the $5-$8 million raise they'll command on the open market. Buehrle, Crede, Dye, Iguchi, Garland, the list goes on and on and on. Some of them have to be moved for younger talent. It doesn't have to be Dye, but if Dye gets you the best return, then maybe it should be.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 23, 2006 -> 08:57 AM) Hilary has a few X-factors effecting her that no one else has. Therefore, I don't think conventional wisdom necessarily plays out in her case. The one number that I can't get past is that, before he campaign has even officially begun, 40% of the country already knows they "definitely" won't vote for her. Yes, but first of all, there's no way in hell 98% of those folks would have voted for a Democrat anyway, and secondly, how many of them would vote in a Democratic primary?

QUOTE(Texsox @ Oct 23, 2006 -> 08:01 AM) No matter how hard conservatives try and lock up the nomination for Hillary, she won't be the candidate. I'm certainly still not ready to say that for one simple reason: As George W. Bush has proven in 2 elections straight, money still determines everything in politics, and Hillary is simply going to have orders of magnitude more money than anyone else in that race.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Oct 23, 2006 -> 12:11 AM) It's amazing how many people overlook the guys on the current team. There are very few better than Dye. DDD. Don't Deal Dye. Seriously some people need to get over this love of the unknown. You ain't going to get better than Dye. And for the money? My gawd he is underpaid!! He is underpaid for 1 more season. After that, he will either be overpaid or will be gone.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Oct 22, 2006 -> 09:27 PM) Oh, and Matt Bryant has a leg of steel. Chuck Norris esque.

QUOTE(CardsJimEdmonds15 @ Oct 22, 2006 -> 09:08 PM) I have nothing to say on this.. Rogers said it was a clump of dirt.. Ha.. Either way the man shut us down.. that's all that's to be said.. wether he shoulda or not been pitching after the first.. The Cards did their jobs in games 1 and 2...they took 1 of the 2 games in Detroit. Now they get to hand it to Carpenter and Suppan in front of the home crowd. That's an enviable position to be in, at least to my eyes.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Oct 22, 2006 -> 08:48 PM) Kenny Rodgers shall be known as poopy hand for the amount of pine tar that was on his hand. Kenny Rodgers called it dirt. A clump of dirt isnt yellow and doesnt glisten under the lights of the night. If it were dirt...he would have just left it on there, so that when the umps examined his hands at the beginning of the 2nd inning, all theyd' find was dirt, and he'd be cleared.

Urge to use my power to change title from MacGuyver to Schoefield...

"And on a related note, in order to begin the correction of the negative image of Muslims, Mubarak banned 3 dissident political parties whose actions were detrimental to the state of Egypt and ordered the arrest and indefinite detention of 3000 enemies of the state of Egypt."

QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ Oct 22, 2006 -> 05:10 PM) can't trade your best outfielder who is making $6 million when you have nothing but ????????????? in the other outfield spots. But I'd love to see the Sox bring ARow back. He's the guy we missed in the clubhouse and dugout most, in my opinion. -Elim Garak.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Oct 22, 2006 -> 08:22 PM) Just last week all the talk shows on SIRIUS NFL Radio were talking about the Chargers as though they were world beaters and look at them now. They're f***ED. Their whole defensive front is now either hurt or suspended it seems. I bet Aaron Brooks is swearing silently right now. Those steroids helped end his career. QUOTE(3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 @ Oct 22, 2006 -> 08:17 PM) When are they going to catch Thomas Jones? No, that blurb is wrong, the attention won't change, Congress is the first in line thinking that the only benefit of steroids is being able to hit dingers Congress focused on baseball more first because Baseball took longer even to create some windodw dressing, and because Baseball's records are far more famous than most of those in football. When all these linemen start hitting their late 30's and turning up dead, it might catch a few more eyes.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Oct 22, 2006 -> 04:04 PM) I was wondering what Philly's issue was. They looked like worldbeaters last week and now they look like yesterdays garbage. Who'd they lose? Well, they may have looked like worldbeaters last week but they still lost to New Orleans last week. Philly's injury list includes Stallworth, Jevan Kearse, and IIRC a couple other places, including their secondary, are pretty banged up.

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Oct 22, 2006 -> 03:58 PM) I would probably agree with that (OMG, did hell just get colder?). Just suprised that they didn't slip someone in there regardless. Maybe that's the power that one of those little golden statues conveys to directors?

Reyes gave the Cardinals 1/2 of their "Formula" wins yesterday. If Carpenter could pull off 2 wins for them, they need to go 2-3 in the other 5 games, which means they need to get 2 other pitchers to step up, and it couldn't be Suppan twice. They needed either Reyes or Weaver to step up in games 1 or 2. They need 1 more win from someone other than Carpenter, and they need Carpenter to hold serve.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Oct 22, 2006 -> 03:32 PM) Only in a hypersensitive, pussified society like ours can someone lose his job over something silly like that. If you seriously believe that this was the only reason Fox was getting rid of Steve Lyons...then you just haven't been paying attention.

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Oct 22, 2006 -> 03:51 PM) On a different note, knowing how PC Hollywood is these days, it is a bit suprising that there were no blacks, even as extras. Given that fact about Hollywood, I find it difficult to believe that such a thing could happen by chance...it almost has to be some effort at historical accuracy, given the statistic Nuke cited.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Oct 22, 2006 -> 03:51 PM) Seattle is in freefall right now. They're about to lose again. Same goes for Philly. What is going on with those guys?! They lost again today also. The same thing for both teams...injuries, injuries, injuries.

I just keep coming back to this one, simple fact. White Sox Free Agents after: 2007 Jermaine Dye Tadahito Iguchi Mark Buehrle Freddy Garcia 2008 Juan Uribe (Option for 08) Javier Vazquez Jon Garland Joe Crede Jim Thome ($14 mil option for 09) And there are a few more on there. Thornton and MMac hit FA at some point, I just don't know exactly where. The point is this: our team has a boat load of players hitting Free Agency in the next 2 years, including 4/5 of our current starting rotation, our DH, our entire infield save Konerko. We just do not have the players in our minor leagues right now to replace all of them, nor do we have the money to do so. Jermaine Dye is in his walk year. It would be nice to sign him to a contract extension, but he is getting up there in years, he is coming off a career year, and he's just as valuable to someone else as he is to us. Every time one of these threads comes up, be it about Crede, Dye, Iguchi any of the starting pitchers...yes, the best option would be for us to hold onto all of them forever and have them never drop off, but that's just not going to happen. We can not afford to simply have these guys all hit Free Agency and walk for next to nothing, and we can't afford to resign all of them. Holding on to all of them is just asking for a collapse in 2008. BMac and BA can't do everything. At some point, we have to deal someone, probably at least 2 or 3 of these guys, for some youth in order to free up salary space and fill in holes. It's either that, or in 2008, we find ourselves paying $100 million and having half our team filled with AAA players. For an example of what that looks like, take a look at the 2006 Chicago Cubs. I don't know if it should be Dye, Crede, 3/5 of our starting pitchers, or what. But we need to move some of these guys and get younger, and we can not let talent like these guys have walk as free agents because we hesitate.

Please.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Oct 22, 2006 -> 06:57 AM) That's pretty naive thinking if you ask me. It's all about power. Which is why, if it winds up 50-50 or 51-49 Dems, Lieberman will be caucusing with the Republicans...because thanks to the fact that they have the tiebreaking vote, they have the most to offer him, in exactly the same way Jeffords flipped in 2001 because the Dems had the most to offer him.

I never knew that. Fascinating. Guess that those sorts of things can happen when you have a segregated army.