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QUOTE(samclemens @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 08:35 AM) oh so when Sudan had bin laden in custody and offered him to the clinton admin. and clinton personally turned down the offer, that was the republican congress' fault? An event which, according to the 911 commission, never happened. And furthermore, the Sudan certainly never held him "In custody". The Sudanese government helped him find safe transit to Afghanistan after they decided it was hurting their country having him in their borders and the Saudis refused to pardon him and accept him back.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 11:02 PM) If this work by Seton Hall was so informative why hasnt it been run by ABC/NBC/CBS. ABC News: Many Guantanamo prisoners never saw battle: report MSNBC News: Many Guantanamo prisoners never saw battle -report Newsday (the same paper that ran the Hillary Clinton article): More than half of Guantanamo detainees not accused of hostile acts LA Times: Report Says Most Detainees Not Accused of Hostile Acts

So on ESPN tonight I heard like 5 times that IU had to let go of Bobby Knight and admit that he's not coming back, and I'm sitting here thinking "There are actually people who think Bobby Knight should/would/could come back?"

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 11:02 PM) Come on now. Even you know that both sides scour the internet and link research and analysis that fits their specific spin on things. But then again I am sure you will objectively look at a study that is linked on the Weekly Standard blog site as a objective analysis just because it came from some right wing college. If this work by Seton Hall was so informative why hasnt it been run by ABC/NBC/CBS. Its obvious that we will just have to agree to disagree on this. Its late and I need to get to bed. Well, when you get a chance, find me an objective study at a page like that pointing at the opposite conclusions and I'll read it. When you want to challenge a study performed based on data, you don't challenge it based on who agrees with it, you look at the data provided and try to undercut it. That paper even includes reprints of the flyers that the U.S. dropped. By the way, is Seton Hall really considered a left wing university? They're a catholic institution, 70% of their students are catholic, Samuel Alito taught there, etc. I mean, it's not run by Falwell, but come on.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 10:51 PM) Its just fair play. Rex stated a similiar statement about not taking something posted as a source in this forum because it was from the world news daily and other non mainstream sites as "sources". If you don't like the source I stole it from, that's fine, that's your prerogative. But I gave you the hard source there. There is absolutely nothing stopping you from clicking that link and evaluating the author's work yourself, except for the fact that it seems I misspelled the word "Here" thanks to the link method while posting. If I only gave you the blog as a source, I'd understand where you were coming from and you'd probably be right to question it, but I gave you the actual paper in a link. And I for one didn't see those ads in the 28 page pdf file from Seton Hall.

Richard Cohen, one of the left-leaning columnists for the Washington Post. I'll use Prof. Myers on this one.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 07:51 PM) So what will haters come up with now that the park is gonna be full just about every night? It's no fun watching a team win every night. There's no excitement!

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 10:43 PM) Its really hard to take your "sources" objectively when its obviously a liberal/democratic website. When I hit this news source I feel for some reason I am on the democratic parties official web page. Could it be the targetted ads for its intended viewers. Try finding sources that are mainstream and are not biased arms of the democratic party. I would get the same response If I quoted Rush Limbaughs website as an official source of information on this board. Dude, COME ON...I LINKED TO THE DAMN STUDY IN THE POST. So I used a blog for an executive summary and to host the bloody graphic. Sue me.

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Portland's Sebastian Telfair caught trying to bring a gun onto a plane at Boston's Logan Airport.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 05:38 PM) we could use that UN money for schools and health care! Or covering about 18 hours worth of expenses in Iraq!

Are shotguns seriously considered small caliber? I never knew that.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 05:19 PM) For maybe you and 10% of the population. 98% of which votes Republican. 73% of which is secretly interested just based on the fact that, well, the Vice President shot a 78 year old man in the face, but doesn't want it covered because they're worried about how headlines that say "The Vice President Shot a 78 year old man in the face" will hurt their President.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 05:16 PM) How bad are the Sixers? 3 games ahead of the Bulls for the 8th playoff spot.

Linky.

Bush's budget this year proposes the smallest increase in military pay since 1994. Link.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 03:44 PM) Technically speaking, probably not. But IIRC he was who they wanted and he told them he wasn't interested and that he was happy at Iowa. Right after that Iowa extended his contract till 2009. Wasn't there also some element of the IU players at the time demanding that Davis keep the job because of the way Knight had been fired right at the start of a season?

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 03:25 PM) That said I'd understand it, since it is potentially his dream job. But if it were his dream job he should have taken it the first time he was offered it. When was he actually offered the job?

QUOTE(TheBlackSox8 @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 02:51 PM) agreed....it's a bonus he's a lefty, and has some experience as a starter...so he's able to go more than just a few batters or an inning. He is the key in the bullpen next year for sure Personally I'd say that Jenks is the key if we're picking 1 single key, but Cotts is pretty close in there too.

QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 02:49 PM) No sense in living in the past...? I agree it's all bulls*** and they are all cream of the crop bulls*** dishers.. but 2 wrongs don't make a right Kap. In order to make changes to make the future better we have to correct things as they happen. No? So you're saying we should ban guns so that Cheney doesn't get his hand on one again?

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 02:46 PM) What else would you call people picked up on the battlefields of Afghanistan and Iraq? In the case of many of the folks from Afghanistan, and this has been reported over and over and over by dozens of sources since Gitmo was created, a significant fraction of them are people who were picked up and given to the U.S. by opposing warlords in exchange for reward money. You get a nice reward, and get to reduce the size of your enemy by 1 man. You want to know how little we actually know about the people there? Of the ones we let go in those "Mass releases" they do every now and again when people aren't watching, a bunch joined up with Al Qaeda. So either us holding them and sodomizing them with light bulbs radicalized them somehow, or we really haven't a clue who is actually who down there. Even a guy who at least at 1 time was the Second in Command at Gitmo says that most of them were just rounded up and will probably be released at some point. (Original quote appeared in Financial Times, currently behind a subscription wall, that blog post has the text)

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 02:47 PM) When did Kindergarten let out? :rolly Funny how you think it let out and that we're not all in the same room typing instead of speaking.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 02:44 PM) Funny how you think terrorists who want you dead are saints or something. Funny how you think that even a majority of the people at Gitmo are actually terrorists.

A Federal Judge has ruled that the government has 20 days to turn over documents related to the program to the court in a case brought by civil liberties groups. The DOJ will almost certainly appeal, and there will be a lot more delays due to that, but it's a start.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 02:36 PM) Bravo. If they had just done things like this to begin with, instead of inciting violence, then I'd have a lot more respect for their government. How much violence did Iran incite? Compared for example to Egypt and Saudi Arabia?