Balta1701

I actually sorta was expecting different results in the spring. So many old NRIs trying to stay in the big leagues, with tons of previous big-league camp experience, I expected these guys to probably come out ready to go in the spring and maybe even be surprisingly good because they were all fighting for jobs. I expected them to be beat down when we got to the regular season and everyone else started trying. It's a little surprising to me that they're playing this badly in the spring.

2022 was a mess. I still don't know what happened with that 8 game losing streak when everyone forgot how to play defense (including Anderson), Keuchel ripped his defense, Leury batted 3rd because he had a good time in the batting cages, they had the entire season of weird injury issues that people tried to play through for no good reason, etc.

"Tremendous bad management of entitlements. There’s tremendous amounts of things and numbers of things you can do. So I don’t necessarily agree with the statement. I know they're going to end up weakening Social Security because the country is weak. I mean, take a look at the stock market, our, what we're going through hell. People have, I believe that number is 50%. They say 32 and 33%, I believe we have a cumulative inflation of over 50%."

I mean, there's one thing that could make it less than a decade, but hard to schedule that.

I think some of that will be that the cities are smaller and so are the stadia. Over a full 30 years stadium lifetime, in Chicago, I’m guessing two assuming they build a quality venue.

We actually do have enough warm bodies in the rotation that trying him in the bullpen mid year is an option.

Because if there’s any job in the world where you’re expected to have success and be evaluated based on that success…it’s GM of the White Sox?

Well that should solve it.

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As far as I can tell, the last 3 WS winners had zero active pitchers with 9 figure deals, the Rangers had 1 buried. The Dodgers had 1, the Nationals 2, the Red Sox look to have had 1 in David Price, the 2017 Astros 0, the 2016 Cubs 1, the Royals and Giants 0.

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Strasburg was not signed by the Nationals, he was drafted by the Nationals. Verlander was traded for by the Astros. I guess you are correct there are two guys on that list who were extended by their current franchises, but Verlander was most definitely acquired by trade from the Tigers and Strasburg was absolutely drafted by the Nationals. The only big money free agent pitcher who has recently won a title seems to be Scherzer.

Literally one of those was obtained as a free agent from other teams. (One, Kershaw, was resigned). This makes a very strong case that paying high prices for free agent pitching isn’t a good move.

Absolutely flip him (unless the team is in first place because he’s a cy young candidate). Do you trust his body enough to give him an extension even covering next year? Let alone a multi year deal? If he’s spectacular in April and May we will be praying he stays healthy through mid July and begging Getz to get a deal done before his next start. Hed have to be one of the top Cy Young candidates before I’d even think about giving him a QO.

If Terry Francona came out of retirement to manage this team, can you confidently say they wouldn’t start 10-30 with him?

This question is legit. Longest thread in Soxtalk history will be: Fire Chris Getz Building in the south loop Dylan Cease trade concepts

Lumping “public and private financing” together as though those are equally controversial is certainly a thing someone could do. Well maybe. Actually…no, that’s not a thing anyone can do? That like makes Reinsdorf look honest in comparison?

But as of now there’s enough talent in the system that you’d also be surprised if it was only Montgomery. They should get more than that. If they don’t, that’s a different indictment, on the coaching staff he brought in - keeping “Sticky stuff” Katz and Grifol doesn’t raise confidence but we need time to evaluate that. That talent may also not be enough for a division contender, but you can’t wash it away like this.

Annoyed and wondering? Right now. Actually pissed? Let’s at least get regular season numbers on both.

If I understand Tax Increment Financing, the idea is that over time a lot of that $1.3 billion would come from the taxes that would be generated by that property being developed - that they’re pumped back into the site this way. While that does limit the city’s short term benefits from the construction on this site - if construction hasn’t happened yet, then very little tax money should have flowed to the site. There are ways to screw that up by making the rules too lenient - Foxconn got $300 million for hitting 600 workers in Wisconsin (the state spent $500k per 1 year job creation), but it’s also hard to be as terrible as that Wisconsonian governor.

At the same time, there’s some credit due here. There’s an owner who went on a rant about how this year couldn’t be wasted, and a GM who - if he followed that instruction - would demolish several future seasons, in an all too familiar pattern. So, aside from a handful of hopefully minor moves, the GM ignored that rant and did what was best for the franchise. No win now moves. Colson is still here, Quero is still here, Noah is still here, Nastrini is still here. Bummer is gone. Santos was amazingly turned into something valuable despite his injury. Crochet is even being given a chance to turn into a starter. Somehow, the owner went on a rant about the importance of this year and the GM either convinced him to think long term or recognized that he’s so out of touch that a bunch of former Royals backups will be something he interprets as an attempt to win this year. We will see if any of the riskier moves backfire or pay off, but there were few of them, and none of them should seriously threaten 2026, despite an owner wanting to throw away 2026. For that, credit is due.

He's already been sent to minor league camp.

No amount of math can support $1 billion for a stadium, I would agree. Several hundred million seems totally justified given the location of this property and how long it has remained undeveloped. But that, of course, is not an exact number, because Jerry Reinsdorf didn't bother doing the homework.

True. After all, this is the first note from any so-called insiders we've heard the entire offseason. It's not like they've yelled "Things are about to go down" after literally every other thing that happened the entire offseason and been wrong every time.