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QUOTE(TheDybber @ May 13, 2005 -> 11:00 AM) If they are going to have Paul and his Mendoza line batting average, then they should have Pods and his 17 steals. That is the most ridiculous projection I've ever seen. Paul Konerko is getting props because he's tied for the team lead in RBI's, has 9 home runs, and was BADLY screwed out of an all-star spot last year in favor of Giambi. Harold Reynolds was doing the same thing on BBTN the other night. I'd say that Francona probably won't pick him if he doesn't get his average up, but at least people are noticing how badly they screwed him last year.

If I was coming in from out of town and that was the only Sox game I'd get to see all year, I'd pay quite a bit. Probably $100 or more if that's what it took. On the other hand, if I was just going in order to go, at Wrigley in the upper deck, I'd say it's probably worth $30 or $40, depending on the exact seat, view, etc. Keep in mind, you do have a lot of time left before the actual games - quite a few weeks can pass where people will put seats up. Set a top price in your head, and see if any tickets fall below that price. Just because some seats are going for $150 doesn't mean they all will - that might just be how much that particular scalper things they're worth. And yes, I concur with my previous comment writer - if you have any choice at all, spend your hard earned at the Cell isntead of spending it at Wrigley. We've got a chance to build a real good team for a while, and every ticket sold helps us keep guys like Paulie and Frank.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ May 12, 2005 -> 11:51 AM) I think you misinterpreted what I said. I meant he was great out of the closer spot, as in a set-up man in Houston. Not he was great out of the closer spot, as in his performance in Oakland. Ok, I did misunderstand... Let me ask you this then...Latroy Hawkins was excellent out of the closer's spot in Minnesota. Would you consider trading for him now? I sure as all Hell wouldn't, and I wouldn't take Dotel either. When Billy Koch was struggling as a closer, did moving him back to a setup man suddenly make him a better pitcher? I just have trouble buying the whole "They're great as a setup man and terrible as a closer, if we put them back as a setup man they'll be great again" line of thinking. If a guy is struggling, he'll struggle whether or not it's the 8th or the 9th inning. He has to prove to me that he can still be a good setup man again before I'd even consider taking him. I understand if a guy is having problems because he has terrible setup men and he keeps coming in with 1 guy out and the bases loaded in the 8th, like Gagne was towards the end of last year, but with Dotel, the stuff he's throwing up there is genuinely bad and not smart. If you throw a guy bad pitches, he'll hit it out whether its' the 8th or the 9th, and right now, Dotel is not throwing good pitches. If you see highlights of the at-bats last night by Millar and Varitek, it's pretty obvious. It's more than just the whole "Closer mentality" thing. He's genuinely not pitching well at all.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ May 12, 2005 -> 11:47 AM) If the White Sox uniforms are so ugly then why are we at or near the top of merchandise sales in MLB? He didn't answer/post my statement defending our uniforms and the stadium upgrades (agreed with him on the name part, but that's the least of the 3 complaints)

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ May 12, 2005 -> 11:43 AM) He was great out of the closer spot. Man...you need to go to MLB.com and see if you can find highlights of the last 2 Oakland-Red Sox games. Seriously. What do people see in this guy? I can't figure it out, he's had an ERA about 4 over the last 2 seasons

I can't figure this guy out. He picks the White Sox in spring training to win the AL Central, then the White Sox get off to the best start in their history, and all of a sudden he sours on them. How can you turn your back on a preseason pick when they start off to the best record in baseball? Anyone else would be gloating that their preseason pick was doing so well. I like the guy, but that just blows my mind.

What are you people thinking saying that we want Dotel? Let the Cubs have him. We have our own bullpen problems. Did anyone actually pay attention to the last series between Oakland and Boston? Dotel gave up 2 walk-off home runs in the 9th inning to guys from Boston. If we want a guy who can come in and give up home runs...we've got Takatsu, and I at least have some confidence that he'll improve this season. I have never thought Dotel was that great of a closer, and I'd be extremely unhappy if KW decided to try to get him and gave up anything other than a nice song and dance. And to the one who said that Dotel is in their long-term plans in Oakland, I think you're wrong. They have that guy, I think his name is Street, who they just brought up from their minors who is slated to be handed the Oakland closer job in the near future. Dotel will be traded, but I hope to God it isn't to the Sox. He's no better than the guys we already have there, and he may be worse. He reminds me of Latroy Hawkins last year; he was excellent as the setup man in Houston, but he hasn't been able to handle the closer spot.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ May 12, 2005 -> 09:05 AM) Is there a baseball game on ESPN tonight? It should have been this one. ESPN's got the NBA playoff games tonight.

Inning over, like 6 pitches for Jose, all strikes.

1 pitch, 1 out for Jose. Good start. 3 pitches, 2 outs. He may get the 3rd out before this posts.

QUOTE(rangercal @ May 10, 2005 -> 04:29 PM) Ok that dye support group s*** is not working 1 at bat.

QUOTE(orangekrush88 @ May 10, 2005 -> 12:37 PM) Jose needs to come up big tonight and dominate. I want Jose to do exactly what he did last time out; conserve pitches, work quickly, end up dominating. Last start, I was wondering if Buehrle was rubbing off on him. If he has another good start tonight, it's an excellent sign.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 10, 2005 -> 01:35 PM) Backing a young player who hasnt lived up to his potential is one thing, thinking that an aging veteran will bounce back to his year 2000 potential is another. As far as playing both sides of the ball, I believe he leads the team in errors. I'm not talking about him bouncing back to his 2000 numbers, where he was hitting like .330 or so. That'd be wonderful...but I didn't expect that from a guy KW paid $5 mil a year for. I'm talking about him bouncing back to his 2004 numbers, where he had like 25 home runs and hit .265, instead of .200. (he was also hitting like .280 before he busted his hand - after he got hurt he hit like he is hitting now). If nothing else, he could at least take a few more walks...he's got 4 this season.

As much as he tormented us last year when he was with Oakland, I'm still glad we don't have to play against him. He just has to be a better player than he's being right now. He has been for years. I can't believe he will stay this bad for much longer.

QUOTE(sox-r-us @ May 10, 2005 -> 12:34 PM) Not to mention we could BMac to the roster in the Bull pen too. I'm sorry, but taking a guy who literally looks to be the future of our starting rotation and screwing around by tossing him into the bullpen in a playoff atmosphere when he's barely faced any big-league hitters in the regular season and he's been a starter all year in the minors just doesn't make sense to me at all. B-Mac is my backup starter if someone gets hurt. No way he belongs in the bullpen.

When Frank Gets back, we're going to have the added luxury of another potential outfielder in Everett. I know people aren't high on Carl's defense, but Dye has already hurt us repeatedly this season with Errors. He can't be that much of a downgrade, especially given how poorly Dye is hitting right now. My advice is to not make any Rash moves and expect that we'll be able to fill holes even better when the big man returns. My advice on Anderson is to hold him at AAA until he's absolutely needed; either due to an injury or because 2006 has started. And I am ardently opposed to trading Anderson this year, as well as he is playing, no matter who we get back for him.

Last year, Frank deserved to be an all-star before he was hurt. If he's healthy enough to play every day, and he can contribute like he did last year, then there's no question he's an upgrade over Everett. That man can simply kill the ball and dominate a game. He was on pace for a 40 HR season last year before he was hurt. Personally, I like the idea of having Frank as the DH, and using Everett as a Ruben Sierra style pinch hitter. Of course, it's always possible that this will be rendered a moot point thanks to Franks' health issues. Either that, or maybe we use Everett to replace Dye for part of the year. (I know people complain about Everett's defense, but really, can he possibly be that much worse than what Dye is doing right now that his hitting won't make up the difference?)

QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 10, 2005 -> 11:39 AM) Not to mention the fact that he was supposed to be a defensive upgrade, how many errors does he have already? This is the thing that's been pissing me off the most about Dye. He had an error yesterday. He had a big error against the Twins that helped cost Buehrle the game. He dropped that fly ball in Oakland. At some point, Anderson does become a better option.

I think it is actually impossible for the AL All stars to screw the AL central worse than Torre did last year. At the break last year, the Sox were in 1st, the Twins were in 2nd. The Sox had 1 all star, and it wasn't even our best pitcher. The Twins had 2 - Nathan and Hunter. And somehow, the 3rd place Indians had like 5 or 6 guys on the team. Toss into the hat the whole "Jason Giambi is an all star", along with the fact that neither Thomas nor Konerko made it, and I think it's absolutely impossible for this year's team to screw us worse than last year. If Konerko gets his bat going, he has a shot, with all the home runs he's already hit. Garland wins 2 more games and he's probably a shoe-in...3 or 4 more and he starts the game. Buehrle should get there this year. One thing that is fairly nice about this team...we don't have 1 single guy who is carrying us. Lots of people are all-around performing, so even if we don't have more than 2 or 3 guys, I don't think it reflects on the team as a whole.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 10, 2005 -> 11:29 AM) The key is, what if that 3 month rental could be the final piece to a World Series team? That's what makes it difficult to judge. Yeah, on paper it is a horrible trade. BUT, does the value of the trade look different if it is Wagner+World Series Appearnece for Diaz, Baj, and Anderson? How about White Sox World Champions, does that make it worth it? Most people are just looking at the values on paper, for you I say, put the stat sheet and Baseball America down, and think outside the box when evaluating something like this. A deal like this has to be thought about much more like the Lee-Pods/Vizcaino deal. On the other hand...there is just as much risk in making the 3-month-rental WS attempt as there is in holding onto the prospects. Say the Sox reach the end of the season, and then 1 or 2 key guys hit a slump, as happened to the Braves last year. Say the Sox get swept out of the 1st round. Then we've mortgaged another solid portion of our future in exchange for another missed opportunity. A guy like Anderson has the chance to give us 3 or 4 real good shots at advancing even further than this season's team can, and for less money while he's young. Moving from Dye to Anderson cuts another $4 million off the Payroll, and KW has done a marvelous job of moving around payroll when he is given it.

For the first time in a long time, when KW put this team together in the offseason, I was feeling like he really was not only assembling a team for this year, but he was assembling a full plan for the next few years. He put Dye in RF on a very short and fairly cheap contract until Anderson was ready, and he put Podsednik in LF as a trial to see how he could do for little money and to hold the place until Sweeney was ready. In 2 years, our outfield was set up to look like Sweeney, Rowand, Anderson (I don't know the order), and that's a pretty good setup. At the same time, we started to look like we were buidling up a surplus of young pitchers who can take over once our current crop starts hitting the free agent waters. We've got Fields up and coming in the infield, Iguchi taking over second for a while, and we filled in the gap at the catching hole. I just don't want us to end up losing next year or the year after because we made a mistake this year. Think about how happy the Cubs would be if they'd held onto Dontrelle Willis and John Garland right now.

QUOTE(sircaffey @ May 10, 2005 -> 10:53 AM) If the Phillies were willing to deal Wagner for Anderson, Diaz, + another spect yet the Sox passed on the deal, and then Shingo or Hermy blows a game or two in the ALCS, what would the perception be? "Oh but we still have Anderson." I have a hard time thinking that KW wouldn't pull the trigger on that deal. I'm w/ KW's mentality. There's been too long of a drought. If this is our best chance to win the AL or WS in a long time, then I would make the trade and worry about some prospect that may or may not pan out later. Or on the other hand...we trade for Wagner, and then Wagner's arm problems crop up again later in the season, and we end up having neither. If you're going to say that there's a risk that a very solid-looking prospect won't pan out, you also have to admit there's a risk in trading for a veteran who has had some recent injury problems. Especially if you'll probably lose that guy at the end of the season.

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ May 10, 2005 -> 10:43 AM) Instead of Wagner, what about KW old Pal Beane.. and get Dotel? I never thought Dotel was that good when he was with Houston, and I don't think he'd be an upgrade over what we have now anyway. Let the Cubs make a run at Dotel if they want him.

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ May 10, 2005 -> 06:16 AM) You can't stop him, he is a gladiator! Ah---Ah---Ah----CHOO!

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 10, 2005 -> 10:33 AM) Its a really tough call. I would basically call Anderson untouchable, but is anyone REALLY untouchable with a chance to win the World Series? I guess it would depend mostly on how the pen looked at that point in time. If we were getting the kinds of efforts out of Marte and Hermanson that we are now, I might be tempted to stay the course, or see if I could find another closer for cheaper. The one thing I think we should keep in mind this year is that there are going to be very, very few teams that are actually out of the running at the trade deadline. KC, Tampa, Colorado, Pittsburgh, probably 1 or 2 more. Everyone else is probably going to be pretty close to the shape Houston was in last year; having an ok team but needing 1 or 2 parts if they want to win. In other words, this year could very well be one heck of a seller's market. So if we want to get anything worth while, we're going to have to give up a ton. Barring an injury to Konerko, I think our best move is to stand pat. We have backup at every single position; Perez and Anderson can back up the outfield, Ozuna, Harris, Uribe can work as backups in the infield, B-Mac and Adkins back up the pitching staff, Widger and Davis back up the catching. Right now there's just no one place that I see us having room for a big upgrade, especially one that would be worth the cost.