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QUOTE(Reddy @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 12:17 PM) Chavez will break out of it Are you guys willing to bet 4 losing seasons by the Sox that he will? Because if he doesn't snap out of it...if it is some sort of real problem, that would be the end result.

QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 12:15 PM) We have to remember its still June 1st, he WILL get his average up, esspecially if he wants out of Oakland this year. How exactly do you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he will?

QUOTE(Reddy @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 12:10 PM) Chavez is 28 Chavez has 167 HR Chavez has 566 RBI Chavez has 189 2B Chavez has a .350 OBP Chavez has a .273 AVG Crede is 27 Crede has 57 HR Crede has 207 RBI Crede has 76 2B Crede has a .302 OBP Crede has a .253 AVG hmm that whole thing about crede being better... im not too sure. Thus far this season, Chavez has put up worse numbers than Crede for a hell of a lot more money. If Chavez proves to me that he can come back from this terrible start (which he hasn't done yet), then I'll shut my mouth and not complain even if McCarthy becomes trade bait. But I cannot understand the logic of trading for a guy who looks like he has jumped off of a cliff and who is being paid $10 mil a year to do it. We'll pay the same price for him whether or not he turns it around, because of his career numbers. I say wait and see if he has a good June. If he does not, then that means he will have had 3 straight months of being a $10 million Joe Crede. Would you trade for that?

Even without K-Rod, what exactly would the odds be of the White Sox pulling out 3 ninth inning wins in a row?

QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 12:03 PM) The one thing I would be willing to bet that Chavez can turn it around on the Sox is because he would have a lot more protection in this line up than what Oakland currently has... Yes, I'd be willing to bet he'd improve here also. But I would not be willing to bet Brandon McCarthy that he'll turn around.

1 thing I want people to keep in mind with Chavez is this... Right now, he's hitting worse than Crede. Crede is hitting .227. Chavez is hitting .218. Chavez's OBP is .276, Crede is at .286. Crede is slugging .368, Chavez is slugging a measly .317. Yes, Chavez plays better defense. But all of the people saying getting Chavez will certainly make us better no matter what would be wise to remember that he is doing a horrific job in the batter's box this season. Absolutely terrible. In other words, you're telling us to trade BMac or someone else very high on the list for a guy making $10 million or so a season and who is hitting worse than Joe Crede, because you're making the assumption that this is a temporary thing and not a full-time problem (i.e. long term injury, got off of steroids, or something like that.) I know Chavez has a record as a positive producer. But right now he is not playing like one. And the last thing I want is for us to be stuck with a guy earning $10 million a year who's career spirals downhill. If we made a deal and he did not return to form, we would be absolutely doomed. For years. We'd lose a ton of salary flexibility, and it would cost us a ton of prospects. You're betting a hell of a lot (the team's future for 5-10 years) on the fact that Chavez can turn it around.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 11:46 AM) this is a bad thing? I sure didn't think it was a bad thing...might lose something in the power numbers, but should gain a fair amount in average/OBP, and improve our defense at 1st as well.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 11:43 AM) Well...we would basically be replacing Paulie in the order for Chavez so..... Looks to be very close, but Chavez has a better OBP, doesnt clog the bases as much , high BA, and better fielding. Sounds like an upgrade to me. Let's not forget about the other side of that coin...we'd also be replacing Crede with Gload in the order.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 10:50 AM) The Nats are still very well in it though. And also, its their first season. They are more than likely not going to have a fire sale, no matter how far out they are. The Nats are not only in it, they're exactly 1.5 games back of the 1st place Braves and Marlins. And on top of that...guess what they've been struggling with? I'll give you a hint...we're in the same boat. There was like a 10 game stretch in a row over the last 2 weeks where the Nats scored less than 3 runs each game. The simple fact is that team will not be holding a fire sale, especially not their first year in existence, especially not on their offense, especially when they have a chance to make a run at the division, and especially when the thing holding them back from making a run at their division is their offense. No one should mention Vinny Castilla here again unless the Nats go into a major slump. That should be the end of the discussion. We might as well start talking about Rolen.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 10:05 AM) There is no open roster spot the Sox would have to make a move. Kevin Walker to AAA Shingo to AAA Timo Released A trade that would free up a spot All four are possiblilities. Kevin Walker to AAA is by far the most likely of those, given that he's going 10+ days between outings as it is.

I haven't seen this posted here yet, and it's a little hard to find, but ESPN's Rece Davis has an audio blurb about Ozzie Guillen over at ESPN Sportsnation. Follow that link, look at the column on the LHS, and click on the title. Basically, Rece runs down the fact that the Sox gave Ozzie a new contract after a few "Questionable" decisions with the pitching staff, like leaving Garland in during the 6th inning on Sunday or leaving Buehrle in on Monday. He says that many may suggest that Ozzie may just not be managing by the book, and that's what's driving people crazy. His response is that Ozzie may be managing from a different book...one titled "A Charmed Season."

This is another of those threads...the principle behind which really troubles me. We have several guys who are in the midst of some major struggles and are trying to turn it around. Dye (although he's hitting like .270 this month), Konerko, Crede, Uribe. Over and over again I keep seeing these threads pop up where people are saying maybe we could improve the team by picking up this or that player (Mondesi, Lowell) who is himself in the midst of a nasty slump. The thing I can't figure out is...why exactly should we replace our slumping guys with guys from other teams who are slumping either nearly as bad or sometimes even worse? Why exactly should we give up young talent for a guy who might come out of a slump in order to replace a guy who might come out of a slump?

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 08:36 AM) Although I'm tempted to still endorse sending Timo packing, that changes things a bit. However, Harris still needs to be on this roster; he's simply to valuable to a pennant race with all he brings to the table. I really don't know what to think anymore. I really want Gload back with the big club, but I'd also like to see Baj get a chance to become a righty specialist of sorts. Now, I'm thinking you're looking at a phantom injury from someone, it's the only way to keep these guys up here. Regardless, Walker oughta go. Walker had an outing against the Rangers in the blowout game. Before that, it had been like 12 days since he had seen any action. Something tells me we don't really need that extra relief pitcher right now. He's as good a person to replace as any. And we could use an extra bat right now. And oh...to any of those folks saying McCarthy should come out of the bullpen...yeah...let's put him in Walker's role, so he gets 12 days of rest. That'll be great for the kid.

QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 09:07 AM) I believe he had a shoulder issue Even before that I believe they were saying they werent' going to trade him.

QUOTE(TheDybber @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 09:01 AM) For instance, if not for being nicknamed "The Deacon," I doubt we would remember Warren Newson as fondly. Or "The Little Hurt" Craig Grebeck. I remember Craig Grebeck because he hit a foul line drive right at my head that my dad somehow managed to catch. I couldn't see where the ball was coming from because it nailed the beer of the guy in front of me and it splattered all over me. I still have that ball. I'm still using Pods until Hawk gets me used to something else. He'll win in the end. Then again...I think that Pods would be the perfect spokesperson for that moving company "Pods" that lets you rent a container for shipping your belongings to your new home.

I think almost anyone here would love to have Everyday Eddie in our pen. That said...I can't see it happening. Last year, the Mariners were even worse than this year, and there were 3 guys that they refused to consider moving: Jamie Moyer, Ichiro, and Everyday Eddie. If they weren't going to move him last year, I have a lot of trouble thinking that they'll move him this year. Although, if we could get him without giving up BMac or another outfielder (do they need a replacement for Reed yet?), then it would probably be a deal that I'd be pretty happy with.

You know what...this may be the most sensible outline for a trade that i've ever seen here. I don't think it'll happen without swapping in 1 young guy, but this one actually has a decent amount of logic to it...maybe even on both sides.

Paul Byrd for the Angels (4-4, 4.14 ERA) against the Count for the Sox (2-2, 3.30). It's time for this team to win a few for Contreras. He's pitched well enough to have 5 or 6 wins, and we can't put enough runs on the board for him. If he keeps pitching the way he has the last few games (yes, including his last outing against the Angels, where we could hardly score 3 runs), he'll deserve to end this season with about 15 wins. It's hard not to be impressed by how his last few games have gone. Work fast, work efficient Contreras, and you'll tear these guys apart.

So...I was just watching Sportscenter... And I couldn't help but notice during the replays of Dye's home run...I believe it was caught (on a pretty nice play) by like an 8 year old kid... and the kid was wearing a Cubs uniform! DAH!!!!!!!!!!!

Last week, Damaso was brought in in that extra-inning affair against the Angels and was absolutely dominant. No one could hit him for like 2 innings, and I think he got a win in that game. Just like Shingo...it's all about control right now for him. When he is throwing strikes, he just can't be hit. Both Marte and Shingo are having the same problem; gettign their pitches over the plate.

Barry Zito would be a terrible addition to this team. He is having much bigger problems than just an anemic A's offense - he's lost a ton since his Cy Young year, and I don't particularly expect him to get it back. It's going to take a lot to pry Lyle Overby away from the Brewers this year - I believe that Prince Fielder, one of their young bats, has been hitting about .250 thus far in the minors, and therefore, it'll probably be another year (2007) before they decide he's ready to come up. That means the Brewers don't really have anyone to fill in the gap in their lineup. My wish list basically consists of a healthy Frank Thomas, and the Jermaine Dye of last year. The remarkable thing is...both of these are attainable with a little luck (and maybe a good swift kick in the bum), and without having to give up McCarthy. On the other hand...some middle relief wouldn't be a bad thing (I hear this Bajenaru guy can be had pretty cheaply?)

Mondesi's not only a clubhouse cancer, but he's also one of those guys who mysteriously dropped a decent amount of weight in the offseason. We've got enough guys who are hitting .220. The last thing we need is a guy who might have another reason why, aside from just poor play.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 31, 2005 -> 07:55 PM) Bill Melton raised a good point... We did just see the reason that we didn't want to bring in Hermanson and pitch to Erstad last night. Which was?

Politte is 2-0 in this series.

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