Balta1701

If they're talking about anything beyond the meeting room at the Holiday Inn Express down the street, they're right, it would be impossible to plan and book a venue in 2 months. Typically this takes >12 months to plan for a full event. They'd basically have to use the stadium and its facilities somehow.

1. They do not have higher upside players to protect. This org is in that bad of shape. 2. If their 40 man is at 37, they have plenty of room to grab a couple of higher upside players from other teams right now, and can figure out what to do with their roster as time goes by and as players are traded or released. Other teams will need 40 man roster spots during the offseason to sign free agents, so some guys who might get claimed right now if they were available might be able to pass through later in the offseason.

This one we went over, he literally won a Gold Glove by "Default". He was an average fielder in 2021, and there were literally 2 LF who had more than 800 innings played in the OF all year, and only 1 who played more than 1000 - Benintendi. I believe Vaughn had like the 4th most innings in LF that year. Benintendi was getting that award by playing more innings than anyone else unless he was as bad as Vaughn out there.

I still hate hearing "oh he had a wrist injury of course he struggled that is obvious everyone should have known that was coming" when no one said "This signing is a bad idea because he's coming off a wrist injury" in the offseason when he was signed.

Am I the only one whose brain is reading more into the term and he's not sure whether he should or not, and this is probably half Deshaun Watson's fault?

You’re right they had to extend one of Alvarez and Tucker. Thats why they did so in 2022 with Alvarez. https://www.mlb.com/news/yordan-alvarez-contract-extension-with-astros

Yup, still stuck at "Anger".

The guy who managed Josh Hamilton?

Yeah I think they get legitimately 1 more year, and then will have to do something resembling rebuilding although what that will look like will depend on whether their young pitchers can take a step forward next year.

I've pointed this out before, but let's say it again - fWAR is misleading you here. Every time you point it out at me this offseason you're going to get this discussion. fWAR does not take into account quality of contact made against it, it does not take into account exit velocity, it was programmed without it. If a pitcher is giving up much more hard contact, their BABIP will rise because of the contact quality. However, fWAR will see that and normalize it away, because it treats changes in that property as basically luck. Dylan Cease in 2023 gave up significantly more hard contact after losing velocity. His fWAR dropped a little because his K-rate dropped a bit, his HR rate went up a bit, and his walk rate went up a bit, but fWAR sees his .260 BABIP in 2022 and thinks "he was a little lucky" and his .330 BABIP in 2023 and thinks "He was very unlucky". However, that's burying the difference in his exit velocity due to his velocity loss - he was not allowing hard contact in 2022, whereas he was allowing a ton of hard contact in 2023. If you look at xERA, which takes into account exit velocity, his xERA was 2.70 in 2022 and it rose to 4.07 in 2023 - so 1.37 runs more. Meanwhile, his FIP only went up by 0.6 between those 2 years. He was a little unlucky last year, but overall given the quality of contact he gave up, he deserved to have an ERA in the low 4s. That performance level is a mid-rotation starter, an innings-eater. Not a top of the rotation guy, not a guy teams will give up a top prospect for, at least not in the offseason. In this case, the drop from 6.4 rWAR to 2.4 rWAR from 2022 to 2023 is doing a far better job of catching Cease's actual weakness, because the thing he was strong at in 2022 was his big weakness in 2023. The small decrease in fWAR is covering up what actually happened to him in 2023 because it's in a spot fWAR is blind to. This is why I don't think he gets moved, because I don't think anyone is going to give up the kind of value the White Sox will expect for him given these numbers. He will have to come out in 2024 and prove he either has his velocity back or that he can get back to being effective with decreased velocity before GMs will meet the type of price the White Sox should want for him.

And Cease’s 2023 was worse because when his velocity dropped his slider became a poor and ineffective pitch that was hit quite hard. So why should I pay a high price based on his 2022 when you just argued that previous seasons are unimportant, he’s not that good of a pitcher based on his 2023.

Because that’s a trend line along with the velocity drop and harder contact. BABIP may be obscuring that for a year.

But that’s down from 12.3 in 2021.

Astros officially hiring Espada as manager.

This is the crossover with politics, you can get away with garbage statements if a reporter isn’t willing to ask obvious follow up questions.” ”He got a great opportunity, one we couldn’t offer him, so we had to let him take it” ”excuse me Mr. Boyer, I’d just like to ask a follow up. The White Sox are in the third biggest city in the country and they’re this broadcasters hometown team. How could the same job in Detroit be a better opportunity than his job here?”

Exit velocity specifically, and K rate as a notable second.

There are I think 5 active threads right now where this could go. As far as I can tell it is easily the most popular answer to the original post.

With his velocity drop and substantially decreased peripherals last year, do you expect the value to be there for Cease? I still don’t.

And yet here’s Brooks saying “Detroit is a better job than our craphouse”. Detroit!

Everyone ponder on what you have to believe to say this about the Tigers.

My guess is always that the things I liked about this broadcast - it was intelligent and modern - were the things that they hated. The owner doesn’t want to hear about OBP, he wants to hear about TWTW.

Yup, still pissed.

They can't. They literally can't.

I will miss Benetti. However, I am also quite definitely no one.

24 hours later...yup still pissed.