Greg Hibbard

1.2 IP, 6 BB? I lost count.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 9, 2009 -> 01:50 PM) The 2003-2004 5th starter never put up a single performance as good as Richard was in May. I'm not insinuating Clayton is as bad, I'm just implying I'm having a flashback because of today. It reminded me of a certain 2004 montreal start. I forget the guy's name now, but it was hilariously bad.

I have officially taken too much acid in my lifetime, because I'm sure as hell having a 2004 fifth starter flashback right now

grand slam, 6-2 indians.

we have got to go to the pen here.

goddammit is this whole game going to be damage control

Yes! Tied up!

base hit for Dye

infield hit!

let's have a 5 run frame, guys.

base hit, 2-0 cle.

wow, what the hell is going on here.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 9, 2009 -> 11:30 AM) I see no point in acquiring a 5th OF to put up a .680 OPS. We can get those for near-nothing from our own system. Ok, so if Anderson has had his chance and we can all agree he's not going to do enough, why not send him and Wise down immediately and call up your two best OF prospects despite the contractual consequences? A sunk cost is a sunk cost. Is his defensive value really THAT high?

Re: Wise. He did a few clutch things last year, had some timely hits, but he is clear not a major league player. In my opinion, it is a matter of time before we acquire some journeyman outfielder capable of playing below average to average defense and capable of hitting .680+ OPS to be a 5th OF. These guys just can't be hard to find and aren't expensive, and I think Kenny will find one before the end of this month. I guess when I started this thread I assumed that Wise wasn't really worth discussing, that it was a matter of time before HE GONE too. I think Anderson is, because he is performing abysmally badly now that he's gotten his "chance" and perhaps Ozzie and Kenny knew what they were doing all along, because if Anderson was worth anything, despite the way he's been handled, he'd man up and get the f***ing job done offensively right now. It would be one thing if he was contributing anything offensively, but he's getting to a point where it's just embarrassing to run him out there.

QUOTE (JorgeFabregas @ Jul 8, 2009 -> 12:34 PM) What the heck is qualified/non-qualified? Which is it? DeWayne Wise has a lower OPS on the season. I meant of all CF whether qualified or not in terms of 3.1 AB per game played or whatever the number is. D. Wise was not listed as a CF on espn's sortables.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 8, 2009 -> 12:37 PM) The s*** has been beaten out of the horse long ago on Brian Anderson. He got his shot, he's blown it. It's over. edit: still better than Wise though and the only semi-viable option in CF with Quentin out. I agree. I think after Quentin comes back, both Wise and Anderson's days with the sox may be numbered.

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Jul 8, 2009 -> 12:34 PM) Can he be 5th OF? You tell me? Arguably aren't there some OF that we could acquire that could at least be average defenders with .700 OPS? Seems like that would be a relatively easy thing to trade for.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 8, 2009 -> 12:32 PM) I don't want to see another Brian Anderson thread ever again. Seriously. What else needs to be said? What more can be said? There are plenty of other players who this can also apply to. The only reason I started this one is that it seems to me like he may be at the end of the road.

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Jul 8, 2009 -> 12:30 PM) I dont see why he cant just be a 4th OF ongoing. He's past the age where you can get anything for him. I think you need a 4th OF who is not an utter hole in the lineup. I don't think we can keep him on solely as a late inning defensive replacement. Whether or not we can get anything for him is hardly the point, whether we can plug someone else better in is. He's a sunk cost and has no trade value and never will.

I sort of think if Anderson doesn't show SOMETHING offensively in the next couple weeks, we'll have seen the last of him in a (major league) white sox uniform, and probably the last of him in any major league uniform. a .223 career average, and the worst OPS of qualified/non-qualified CF (.630, 40th out of 40, his slugging is actually lower than his OBP). Career OPS of .650 is absolutely abysmal. I've always been a fan and thought he didn't get enough of a chance, but 800 ABs is enough of a chance. The kid is not a ML hitter. Great defender though.

you know what I mean. (((((((Paul))))))) will Paul Konerko eventually be the all time HR leader for the White Sox? It's possible...

I've had a seat in pretty much every area/price point in the ballpark

in games we've won he's hitting .383 in games we've lost he's hitting .156 coincidence?

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 03:04 PM) A lot? CF for the first month, very sporadically, then he went to 2B pretty much fulltime when Uribe pulled his hammy against the Giants No one's asking him to play musical chairs on a nightly basis, but I don't think there's a ton of difference between playing 2b and 3b, and I don't think it's going to shatter the kid's confidence or affect his bat necessarily. The right combo may eventually be fields at 3b and gordon at 2b, or the right combo might be what we have. I don't think it's black or white.

We moved Alexei around a lot last year, despite his youth at a ton of positions generally excluding the one he's used to. Why would this necessarily not allow gordon to "settle in"?