Greg Hibbard

If they won a playoff series I would do backflips and probably injure myself badly

QUOTE(Tadahito Iguchi @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 09:06 PM) I don't understand how we didn't clinch the wild card tonight???? Long story short, all four teams can still finish with a 95-67 record.

my head hurts so much guys, the logic is this: If the red sox lose tomorrow, the best they could finish is 95-67, but that would mean that the yanks would at best finish 94-68 (assuming the red sox somehow sweep the yankees). If the white sox win tomorrow they will have 96-66 at worst. Assuming the tribe sweeps the white sox they will be tied, with the best record in the AL at 96-66. Under MLB's rules, since the division winner and wild card winner have the best records in the league, no tiebreaker game is played.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 08:43 PM) Thanks guys, after all this time following the sox I forget who was in our division. Listen, if us and the Indians are tied but both of these teams are in the playoffs, there is NO 1 game playoff then the division winner is determined by head to head which our sox have clinched. Meaning if the we win tomorrow and the Bosox lose they can't finish better then us and if the Indians were to win out, we tie for the division but the bosox are left out because of this, we win the division. Listen. Go to MLB.com. Look up "playoff tiebreakers" in the search window Read the White Sox vs. Cleveland tiebreaker very carefully.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 08:41 PM) Ribbie you're wrong here, the Red Sox do matter, I'm 100 percent sure on this. Assume the Red Sox lose out. Assume Cleveland wins out. Assume the White Sox lose out. Who wins the AL Central?

QUOTE(rowandrules83 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 08:40 PM) that's not a rule change, that's just that if the yanks lose our magic number over the red sox and yanks will be 2 a piece, and since one of them must lose 2 over the wkend, the sox clinch a spot. but that wasnt what i was refering to about rule changes The two statements I made were independent of each other. Sorry for the confusion.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 08:36 PM) Ribbie the red sox do matter: Here's why, the redsox losing and us winning gives us the division, that would put us 4 up on them, meaning we cant have a worse record for them, meaning if they win out and we lose out, us and cleveland tie but since both teams of us are in the playoffs we win the division, due to us beating them head to head. The Red Sox are not in our division.

QUOTE(rowandrules83 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 08:34 PM) sorry, but i have to disagree. unless they changed the rules, they don't play a one-game playoff to determine the difference between the wc and div. champ. they just go by the head-to-head record. wouldn't it be pointless to send out contreras to try and win a one-game playoff when a playoff spot was already wrapped up? I just looked it up on MLB.com. They have changed the rules. If the Yankees lose, we clinch a playoff spot regardless of what else happens.

let's get through the next half inning and do some rain dances

OH MY f***ING GOD

please everett, just no dp. Anything but that.

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 06:13 PM) I actually think he won't be fired, but he'll quit after this season. It definitely seems like a possibility he could go after the Marlins job when it opens. I wouldn't blame him, as the Chicago media is pretty harsh. If he cannot handle two months of intense criticism by useless media tripe, frankly, I don't f***ing want him back.

momentum shift, guys

god f***ing dammit

If the Red Sox and Yankees both lose, and the Sox win, the Sox clinch a playoff spot. So far the first two parts of that equation look good

QUOTE(Harry&JimmyRocked @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 05:45 PM) i hope no one actually believes that this team will play any different than they are right now in the playoffs. you're right...they played exactly the same on Friday, Saturday and Sunday as they did the last three games

what's incredible about it? we are 2 innings in and it's a 1-0 game. Happens every night.

we're snakebitten the last 2 1/3 games

and yes, I'm aware that they are in the race NOW, I meant THEN.

QUOTE(thedoctor @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 02:50 PM) i've watched the indians all year. unfortunately they are the only games i get regularly on television. what was happening to them then and what is happening now is entirely different. sizemore's error the other day is a great example. something like that hasn't happened all year. how many indian games do you watch? they had a chance to climb back into the race coming off of the all-star break and they laid down for four. Looked like they were pressing then too.

QUOTE(thedoctor @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 02:24 PM) i think for the first time this year the indians are pressing a little bit. were you not watching baseball in april, may or june?

other teams' fans just can't stand the fact the White Sox are still in first place that's why you build up a huge lead and beat the teams you're supposed to beat early in the season.

because either Boston or New York is guaranteed to lose 67 games (both have 65 tonight), one win gets us a WC tie no matter what.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 09:09 PM) Gotta love all the pep-talk threads. Considering there's 9,500 of your negative posts on this site, I find it pretty refreshing.

I would like to see him get through at least the 6th.