Greg Hibbard

maybe we can get 100 pages out of this thread

let's play 2

hey guys what'd I miss lol

I have a link another site that copied and pasted the article, if anyone wants it.

Come on, Schoeneweis was a move that sent shockwaves through the league.

If Timo's spot in the order comes up he better be nowhere f***ing near the f***ing plate

they don't call them dog days of august for nothing, guys

Is Crede on acid tonight?

This team needs to have it's ass chewed out after the game, and they need to get to the park for some extra grounders and bp at f***ing 9am.

Konerko - down 2, runner on, strikeout. Like I was sayin'

Somebody please drive Timo to a cornfield in Iowa and leave him there until Nov. 1

And yes, obviously he won't be as strong defensively. When has defense at first base ever been a priority?

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 12:51 PM) Name me one that has averaged 500 AB's the past 3 seasons, is available to the White Sox, will be as strong defensively as Kong, can replace 75% of his R's+RBI's, & will cost no more than 25/4. Jermaine Dye, for one. I'm only half-kidding.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 12:26 PM) You sound like one of those dumb Yankee fans who thinks that ARod's no good. "but he doesn't hit with RISP" By the way, RISP stats tend to fluctuate wildly from year to year. There simply isn't enough ABs to eliminate 'noise'. It doesn't really idicate a players true ability. -- Did Konerko suddenly lose his ability to be clutch? After all he hit .303 just last year w/ RISP. NO. It's all just random chance. -- The reality is, Konerko has a career average OPS of .833. His OPS w/ RISP this season is .864. -- But keep complaining. It looks good on you. :rolly That is just part of my argument. My entire argument: He's slow his average is dipping from year to year to year and will eventually suck by his mid 30s he's increasingly one-dimensional any above average first basemen is gonna replace 75% of his power numbers for 50% of his future salary or less.

August 04 was also terrible

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 12:08 PM) that statement is fine. I agree with it. But you act like Paul is no big deal. he has been a huge spark for a team desperate for a spark, and noone is noticing because they dont want to see it. Like I said, I like Konerko. I just think we can get about as much for much, much less. Like I said, his numbers with RISP are not good...

Can we please get back to talking about how Paul Konerko is not a $10 million dollar a year value

Very well, let me just f***ing edit my statement to reflect the fact that Soxtalk is a website that is big on semantics. How many times has Paul Konerko ever hit a walk-off home run or single? My point is that when the chips are down and we are down 2 in the ninth, 2 out, 2 on and Konerko is up, you can count on a pop-up.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 12:00 PM) there is only one thing f***ing ridiculous that i see. Go find a mirror Greg, you might see it too. Your definition of "game-winning home run or hit" is not the same as 99% of other people in the world. Go ahead, ask around the office and get back to me.

I mean, how f***ing ridiculous does that sound.

remember that fifth inning bloop single that Timo hit which was the game-winning single?

game winning home run is not the same thing as "insurance run which eventually was the difference"

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 11:55 AM) hmmmmm, lets think way way back, to the good ole days of 2005, in fact it was August 10th, 2005. Paul Konerko wound up, in the 9th inning against Alan Embree and sent the pitch an estimated 450 feet into the Yankee monuments. It put the Sox up 2-0, in a game which they won 2-1, making it the game winning homerun. It was such a long time ago, you seem to have forgotten. This is quite a stretch.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 11:12 AM) LMFAO, 40 Hrs and 110 RBis is "serviceable". You do realize that there are only about 10-15 guys in all of baseball who will put up these numbers now right? I said serviceable defensively. There have been a s***load of injuries at 1st base this year, and a s***load of platooning situations. Look, Arizona has a platooning first base combo of Tracy and Clark, right? Combined home runs...39 (I know they have played other positions too..but even if you adjust to Konerko's numbers you get a comparable number. Clark has 21 homers in like 230 at bats. Tino Martinez/Jason Giambi? Comparable numbers out of that position. Tino himself has 17 home runs in 200 something at bats. Morneau and LeCroy have platooned a bit at first too, no? Lee, Pujols and Texeira are all gonna have more home runs. Sexson might have more than Konerko when it's all said and done. And that's just first basemen. Sweeney's been injured and has been playing hurt when not on the DL...Thome's been injured all year or he would be up there with the other sluggers. Both would certainly be ahead of Konerko in OPS if injury-free. My point is that I'm willing to give up 5-10 homers nad 10-15 rbis in that position to free up some cash. Konerko's OPS is behind Nick Johnson for christ's sake, and he has only 11 home runs.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 06:54 AM) What is overpaying for .260 40 HR and 110 RBI in the post steroid era? Konerko is a COMPLETELY one-dimensional player, and next year he will probably be an extremely overpaid one JUST because of home run totals. Any ground ball is an insta-double play. He constantly clogs up the basepaths for the hitters behind him. He's serviceable, but not remarkable defensively. He's streaky to a maddening extent, and much, much worse with runners in scoring position/in clutch situations. Do you ever remember Konerko hitting a game winning homer or hit? I can't in recent memory but it's early monday morning so maybe I'm just wrong. In his early-mid 20s, he was consistently a .290-.300 hitter with 25-30 homers. For the last three seasons, he hasn't cracked .280, and .277 in '04 seems like the top of his threshold since he's turned into a pure slugger. Except for maybe 5-10 extra home runs and maybe 10-15 RBIs AT BEST, what are you getting out of Konerko that you couldn't get out of literally ANY other major league first baseman? I appreciate everything he has done in the past several seasons, but we could get a first baseman that could hit 20-30 home runs and have 80-90 RBIs for much, much less and go out and get even more help with the extra cash.