Greg Hibbard

The cops they are keystone make it stop

The at bat of Rondon’s life right there

“And AJ Reed is going to get pulled back (YES!!!) for pinch hitter... Jose Rondon (NOOOOO!!!!)”

Wow. Happy he got another shot. Would have sucked to have gone out like that.

Let's just say for a moment that Jose Abreu is at 80% of his career numbers for 3 years purely at DH. Even from a value perspective, isn't an .800+ OPS reliable DH enough? I know everyone is high on the prospects we have coming up, but it's not like Collins projects to necessarily be better than a slightly declined Jose. Vaughn also might need a year to settle in.

I'm not sure if you're really serious here, but the whole line of reasoning that Abreu is somehow resonsible for a losing culture just really sucks, though IMO, because Jose had zero to do with those teams underperforming. The 2016 team underperformed because of so many other things. That whole campaign was an utter disaster. I'm not sure where you think 2017 and 2018 should have been "performance-wise" for the team, given what they chose as the direction. It's also hard to think that Jose somehow "underperformed" in 2014 when he won ROTY. So what does that leave us? 2015 where he had a slash line almost exactly in line with his career numbers? It makes me sort of angry that the only guy we have been able to truly count on for possibly one of the worst 6 year stretches in franchise history is held to this completely unreasonable standard that no one else ever is.

I still wonder how many of the same people who are leery of an Abreu extension were probably crying for the team to extend Paulie for three years at two years older in 2010 for the same money. And no, Konerko didn't win the World Series by himself. Also, just because Reinsdorf make us feel like there are choices to be made about where the money goes doesn't mean there actually is. Pay the man $30-$35 million and let's just have him be a career white sox. There's even a chance he produces roughly the same over the next three years as a DH and we end up with #79 being retired by the team. If he doesn't produce, we just let him go. It's really not that hard.

I did some more digging and Abreu does hit slightly worse as a DH for his career, but it's .843 vs. .870 OPS.

Ok, here's something interesting that's to consider: as 1b Jose is .292/.318/.547/.865 (64 games) as DH Jose is .231/.311/.436/.747 (22 games) Is there something to that or do we think sample size is at work?

His OPS and OPS+ are basically right in line with his career numbers.

haha true. let me dream tho

27.3% K rate. less than 24% since June 1 (1.1+ OPS since that time). BABIP is a bit up compared to his average, but he's been so fricking hot how could it not be? Top 5 MVP candidate and he could win it.

If the general consensus is that this team was going to win somewhere between 69 and 79 games and not compete for a playoff spot, then I don't honestly understand why either the Santana move or the Nova move is troubling. They're just blank major league players to fill a roster spot while guys are getting ready in the minors and/or rehabbing. I think people also don't keep in mind that the original plan included a healthy Michael Kopech, but that lone injury set us back a year. Add Dane Dunning to that, who was tearing up the minor leagues, and there were just very few guys who were available as proven major league caliber starters on a short term deal that allowed for our eventual rotation to take shape without medium / long term salary being eaten.

I am enjoying Livin La Vida Nova today

Dude, he has 550 or so professional at bats. He has done well, but 200 or so more professional at bats in the minors won’t kill him, and I would much rather have a 5-tool CF at the age of 28 hitting his peak as a major league player, potentially delivering a 6 WAR year in a season the Sox will be assuredly competitive than a couple of months of him figuring it out to satisfy your impatience.

Popular teams like the Yankees, Cubs, and Red Sox get “popularly good” but not necessarily totally deserving all star selections all the time. Their fans revel in it as a chance to throw their weight around. Meanwhile, a portion of our fans hate on Abreu for receiving the same treatment. I’m proud that one of our players has the reputation of being an all star even if the advanced metrics aren’t totally there. Good for him and good for us.

Wow.

We just need a double play.

Your trolling really needs work if this is the best you got for this thread

Nice play by Eloy. He seems to be improving in his reads / lines / jumps

Love him so much

Nothing like a guy making the last out at third needlessly

Let’s DH a guy hitting .190 why not

I just want to point out that Jose’s total WAR over 5.5 seasons is now 19.5. Paul Konerko doesn’t have any 6 consecutive seasons where his WAR surpasses Jose’s current total. Also, the Red Sox only had 5 players above 2 WAR offensively during their 2018. I don’t know where this myth comes from that we need to have 3+ WAR players at every single position. It’s perfectly fine if Jose Abreu costs 9-10 million and delivers 2 WAR at DH. He doesn’t have to be the best player on this team anymore.

Got to put it in this thread NO YONDER NO CRY