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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 12:12 PM) So take this as completely rumor, but I was talking to one of my clients who knows some people at PSU and the rumor is that: 1) Second mile pimping may have merit. 2) Some of the board of trustees may have known a lot more than they are claiming. I honestly hope this thing gets bigger and bigger (that's what she said). The more people it takes down, the more focus is given to child endangerment.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 12:07 PM) lol I think the irony is delicious that you want someone who has a different opinion than you killed. Oh, I didn't say killed at all. It's not my fault if you made that assumption, you sick bastard. I only wanted him to have a brush with death that could open his eyes a little. Wow...

QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 12:07 PM) surprised Milwaukee isnt a destination option for Mark. - Playoff Contenders (who knows about that with Fielder) - Midwest Team - NL Central, meaning he can go home to St. Louis a few weeks a year - Nice stadium with good fan base - Blue Collar City and could maybe move up north to stay within the Chicagoland area. (Gurnee, Winnetka, Lake Forest, etc) That was one of the teams I said I'd be OK with, actually. Brewers, Reds, Cardinals, either Texas team, and even KC.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 12:04 PM) Come on man, Burger King didn't wish injury on you when you left for the extra 25 cents an hour at Arby's. Culver's, and it's much classier.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 12:00 PM) All the people looking at this from a "football" perspective and not a "holyf***childrenwereraped" perspective need to be shot out of a catapult directly into a brick wall. We've seemingly got two already in Matt Millen and Franco Harris. These morons need to take a step back and separate their personal relationships with the accused/those that took little to no action from the horrible deeds that took place. f***, that's how this whole thing started. Guys like Paterno and such couldn't look at Sandusky as a monster because of their personal relationships with him.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 11:45 AM) Sorry. I'm not made to just hope injury upon someone if they leave after all the entertainment Mark has provided. That's just idiotic. Perhaps you're less of a fan because you're not willing to hope injury on a competitor -Gil Renard

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 11:57 AM) Black. f***ing. Humor. Can he seriously not realize how retarded his statement was when considering the source of the whole blowup?

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 11:45 AM) Well, she is stealing youth from young girls so she can stay beautiful, so it does make sense. But yea, put them next to each other and i see a model and a gawky teenager that can't act. Fixed.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 11:54 AM) Uniformed guess: the facilities were built during the cold war/Soviet Union and Kazakhstan allows them to keep using it. That makes sense, but jeez, Russia is enormous. You'd think they'd have another launching area somewhere in there.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 11:42 AM) Well, Franco Harris is not pleased with Paterno getting fired Ooh, after reading that article a couple more times, I'm fuming. f*** Franco Harris right in his face. Let's hope he walks into the general path of a speeding bus at some point.

THE IRONY IN THAT STATEMENT IS UTTERLY DELICIOUS.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 11:35 AM) That's just pathetic and makes you a terrible fan. Why? We're fans of the team, not the players. It stands to reason that we would be angry with a former player if he were to sign with a hated rival (or the team now managed by the guy that forced his way off of the team by sabotaging its most recent season).

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 11:25 AM) This is not photoshopped Spectacular.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 11:09 AM) Schultz had his name on the campus Child Care facility. as of yesterday, the name was boarded over The black humor in some of this is staggering. QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 11:13 AM) I wonder if McQueary has some kind of "whistleblower" protection or if PSU is worried about a lawsuit from him. I think he testified because the grand jury forced him to, but there has to be some reason why he is still around. There has to be something to it. Perhaps the fact that the GJ found his testimony to be very strong in stating that he was explicit in what he told his higher-ups? Maybe they know something that none of us does, say...something like McQueary was "forced" to keep his mouth shut by people at the school. That information would come out one way or another, but if it were the case, they'd look even worse for firing him. Plus, it'd open them up to a lawsuit from him. Just throwing s*** at the wall here.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 08:45 AM) From this point on, I'm happy to let that happen. The changes that needed to be made immediately have been made. Agreed. Well, except now it looks like McQueary still has a job, which should be fixed as soon as possible. And the guy who's still on the payroll. Fire McQueary and take the VP or whatever it was off of the payroll, and I'm satisfied to sit back and wait until all of the facts roll in.

QUOTE (Tex @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 05:51 AM) Good point. And just to drive this home, if you saw a boy get raped and you didn't call police, you just told someone else, then find out the man continued rape boys, will you say, hey I told "the most powerful man in Happy Valley", don't blame me? And Joe isn't the biggest victim, that is a disgusting statement to make and blatantly unfair to even insinuate that I would believe that. What I have said is Paterno is being portrayed as the second biggest villain here, the written wrath against Paterno exceeds that of Sandusky. I see Paterno's responsibility behind that of the GA, the AD, and the university president. Right next to the dad. As I read additional reports from prior to 2002, I am agreeing with his removal. But I really wish the wrath that is being placed on Paterno was instead placed on the eye f***ing witness who did not call police. In sheer volume, yes. But that is due to a vocal minority strongly supporting Paterno, so obviously there is going to be more written about him. With Sandusky, pretty much everyone says that he should go to jail or die or rot in hell, and nobody argues those points. So, obviously there is going to be less discussed about him.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 08:26 AM) http://www.csnchicago.com/blog/whitesox-ta...tm_medium=email Cementing something I think we've all know for quite some time. I know I've mentioned it plenty.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 06:37 AM) f*** that. He signs with a team in the AL Central, the Yank Sawx (that's two teams), or the Marlins, and I hope that shoulder finally f***ing gives and his fastball only reaches 78. I love Mark Buehrle to death, but those are the 7 teams I do not want him signing with and I will hope for him to fail any time he pitches with those teams. In 2006, he put up a 4.99 ERA. In late July of the following season, the White Sox guaranteed him that he'd be set for life and that he'd have a steady income for the following 4 years, and if he ended up anywhere outside of Chicago before his 10/5 rights kicked in, it'd be an extra mill per year along with another year on top. Mark Buehrle has a title. He was a key member of that title. The f***er should have gotten a win and a save in consecutive games of said World Series (that is not justification for a hometown discount, merely a cool thought). Bottomline is, he SHOULD give the Sox a hometown discount, and I think he WOULD, given the circumstance. Even if his agent says they "are not giving a hometown discount," I do not believe it. That is agent talk for "we want more money." I do believe Konerko's agent said the same last year. If the Sox don't want to play ball, then Buehrle's party will play ball with anybody else. If the Sox offer him 4/$60, I think he takes that over 5/$75 from anybody else. If the Sox offer him 5/$70, I think he takes that over 5/$80. Bottomline, he should go where he is comfortable. I'd s*** bricks if he went to the Cubs (because he's not a "Theo" pitcher and whatever else), but if that's where he was given the best opportunity and wanted to see more of the country on a semi-regular basis, then good for him. I'd prefer to see him go to the Cards in that situation, but they have a bigger obstacle on their plate. --- I still think he ends up back with the Sox. I think it's very similar in value to the deal he signed in 2007, but with a team option with a very expensive buyout, similar to the 4/$60 I posted ($14 mill a year, say $18 option, $4 buyout, making him essentially worth $14 mill to the Sox in '15). Thankfully somebody finally said it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 07:46 AM) I could care sell about our BA rankings. I don't want to go through a 60 win season, just so we can be at the top of a prospect list. I also don't want to go through having a million fans in the stands again, and having no expectations of being good for years. I think we already have that

It's not fair to eliminate an entire market. That being said, f*** the Japanese market. The vast majority of them are superbusts. I was just forced to make that word up. That's how bad signing anyone from Japan to a significant contract would be. Hideki Matsui and Ichiro Suzuki are the only guys that have come over and been consistently good. After that, the best you're looking at is a year or two of pretty decent play (Tadahito Iguchi) or respectable bench players (So Taguchi).

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 07:25 AM) Kind of funny you disagreed with me on this. It's humorously ironic on any number of levels. I trust that the guy heard any number of things, had a good feel as to who was using and who wasn't, but generally think the guy wrote the book and mentioned the names for a reason - that being money. So someone gave him money to STFU about him not using steroids? Does that surprise you? It doesn't surprise me in the least. Roger Clemens made $150 mill playing baseball, and that's not including any endorsement or side projects he took part in. Him parting with $10K (based entirely upon his MLB compensation) is roughly the same as a middle-upper class American giving $100-$500, and an upper class American $1,000. Canseco could use every single bit of it. It doesn't particularly surprise me that he mentioned 9 names and George Mitchell mentioned 80 more. One did it for money, one did it for justice. Bottomline, Canseco IS a whore. You'd be hard-pressed to find anybody who disagrees with that, even Balta. --- Oh, and without knowing the levels at which Manny took steroids and any other PEDs, it's generally impossible to know what type of player he could have been. I don't know that Sammy Sosa was ever implicated on steroid use, but, unless he came out and admitted he used and when he started, it's impossible to know what type of player he was with and without steroids. Scouting reports suggested he had monstrous power ability and that he was a potential 30/30 threat when he was with the Sox, and he was not with the Sox long [baseball Digest, ca. 1992]. He was damn near a 40/40 player with the Cubs and was a 30/30 player twice with them before '98. At some point, natural talent DOES come into effect. You can be hyperbolic and say "because (said player) used steroids, they are just as likely to be a minor leaguer then they are a potential hall of famer." That seems to be the Bud Fox argument, and I simply can't agree with that. If a player is terrible, steroids make him bad; if he is bad, they make him not bad; if he is not bad, they make him mediocre; if he is mediocre, they make him OK..." Until we have proof otherwise, we can't make a fair assumption, so anybody MAKING assumptions is incredibly and inevitably wrong. The safest bet of all is to say "we do not know how good these players are or were without performance enhancing drugs, and we never will; thus, not only due to ethical reasoning, but general lack of perspective and knowledge, we cannot elect these players into the Hall of Fame, even considering their contributions to the game." The guy from Wall Street?

Kazakhstan is its own sovereign country, is it not? Why would Russia be conducting launches from there?

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 01:49 AM) I didn't really think The League was very good tonight, and I thought Sunny sucked. Need to catch up on BMS though, I missed Wednesday's episode. The funniest/creepiest part was imagining coming home and finding a guy that looks like Frank in your house carrying a whip. And the fact that the family was Asian was also worth a chuckle. I remember watching one of those reality cop shows probably about ten years ago. They were talking to the chief of police of a small town, at first just hearing his voice while showing a montage of a car chase. Then they showed him, and it was a fat Chinese guy with a Southern accent. I suppose that's when I realized the depths of my belief in stereotypes. I couldn't believe that it was real.

The part about the guy still on the payroll IS strange, and it needs to be both explained and fixed. And let's be honest, if Paterno fulfilled his legal obligation (which he did) and has plausible deniability to any cover up, he'd be a fool not to work with the investigation. This is especially true given his public image in the aftermath of this thing, and being fired may also fuel his desire.

People have said the entire time that Paterno will have no problem with the law because he did the legal minimum. Also, can't a cooperating witness be someone who had done something illegal but is testifying against his cohorts for some kind of legal break? I'm not saying that's the case, just putting it out there.