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They f***ing skip the memorium part?

QUOTE (juddling @ Feb 25, 2012 -> 06:48 AM) For those in here still watching The Walking Dead.....some good news as they cast the role of The Governor (coming next season) Meet The Governor After quickly scanning his Wikipedia page, I've never heard of him. But he sounds like a very good actor, which ought to help that show a bunch.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 24, 2012 -> 03:10 PM) So you started when you were 8 or so? Ha, took me a minute to even get what you were joking about. Doesn't help the argument that I was walking before 8, I suppose.

And I guess that was venturing a guess, so I lied.

QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Feb 24, 2012 -> 03:07 PM) How old were you? I can totally understand if you were just a little s***. Although I became a hardcore fan when I was 6, I never went to a game until I was 12 (1962). I couldn't even venture a guess. I would bet that I was brought to a few games a year since I was able to walk.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 24, 2012 -> 03:03 PM) Read Game of Shadows. One of the co-authors is Mark Fainaru-Wada, same guy covering the story for ESPN. Additionally, you saw the physical transformation with Bonds. You don't see it with Braun. You didn't see it with a few guys. f***ing Pablo Ozuna was on them. Rafael Palmeiro didn't change at all. And to be clear, we have no idea when Braun started using steroids. He may have been on them for a very long time. It's possible to stay ahead of the curve. It's obvious that this is one of those divisive issues where people are not going to agree. I wanted to walk away from this thread earlier, but I relented. I'm just going to stop talking about this now

QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 24, 2012 -> 02:58 PM) The entire reason Bonds took the cream and the clear was because he was pissed that McGwire and Sosa were getting all the hype during the '98 home run chase. Additionally, he made about $100 million in additional salary after he began taking them. He also took them beginning at the age of 33/34 and showed many symptoms of taking PEDs. Prove it.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 24, 2012 -> 02:53 PM) Spring training opening day or April opening day? That's still six weeks away and he is already out? To say that Sizemore is made of glass is an insult to guys that are actually made of glass, like Peavy and Quentin. Grady is more like the breakaway glass they use in movies.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 24, 2012 -> 02:54 PM) Scott Merkin ‏ @scottmerkin Since last seen with the White Sox, Brian Bruney has dropped 25 pounds. Looks primed to make a run at one of three open bullpen spots It was 30 a few hours ago, according to another source. By the time the season rolls around, people will probably realize that he gained weight (memories of Jenks).

Am I the only one that has no recollection of his first Sox game? The best I can do is remember the first game I went to without adults.

QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Feb 24, 2012 -> 02:46 PM) I think that's cool. I appreciate Peavy saying that, but it really shouldn't be up for debate anyway.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 24, 2012 -> 02:34 PM) He isn't guilty, but he sure isn't innocent. I can't stand the Brewers fans on my floor that love to champion the following: LeBron, Wade, Lin, Tebow, and Braun. God I l'd love to see one of their idols fall, especially Braun because while I liked him in the past, if he's innocent he's not resorting to procedural error to cover his ass. Huh? I can get Wade, I guess. QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 24, 2012 -> 02:43 PM) There sure as f*** is a profile. He is already celebrated as one of the best players in the game. He signed a below-market contract basically through the end of his career, yet he is also set monetarily for life. By all accounts he is an extremely hard worker and a grounded, easy-going guy. He's young and in the prime of his career. He also has come out in the past against steroid and PED usage. I'm sorry that you're so jaded that you're going to consider everyone guilty before proven innocent, but I'm just not buying it here. Barry Bonds.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 24, 2012 -> 02:25 PM) Because Braun didnt need to prove tampering. He only needed to prove that MLB screwed up and therefore the test was invalid. No reason to go beyond when its unnecessary. That's why its entirely speculation. If this was a case where not only did Braun have to show "improper protocol" but he also had to show that he was "likely to prevail on the merits" it would be an entirely different scenario. But its like the "fruit of the poisonous tree" in criminal law, once it was improperly handled, all of the evidence is no longer reliable. There are ways to prevent this, but MLB just does not have a policy to protect against errors. (IE MLB could require every stadium to have a facility to store specimens indefinitely, that way there would have been another sample that had not been improperly handled to test against.) Simply put, MLB's own laziness lack of control caused this problem. If they are mad, they should be mad at themselves. I agree with you. But I would like to know if you believe Braun was using a banned substance.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 24, 2012 -> 02:41 PM) paul hoynes ‏ @hoynsie #Indians CF Grady Sizemore (back) out for opening day. #Indians Grady Sizemore strained lower back fielding grounders in the OF two weeks ago. Surprising.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 24, 2012 -> 02:28 PM) I love this part a lot after their renovations. It is a whole new park versus the POS that was there in 1991. No doubt. I still have a framed picture of the new stadium from when it first opened up. I bought it at Grand Stand thinking that it'd be cool to have in my room. I look at it now and it's laughable.

Let's not do this, people. We don't need to start an unstoppable argument over something we all know. Braun is guilty but he walks. Don't go into semantics.

QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Feb 23, 2012 -> 03:04 PM) False. I played semi pro rugby at 370...I'd say Herm was about 320 or so And your height?

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Feb 23, 2012 -> 12:06 PM) I didn't even read this post. Haha

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 23, 2012 -> 01:02 PM) Behind the scoreboard and on the ramps there were usually people getting high at the games. I don't doubt it. I just wouldn't expect stoners to enjoy baseball.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Feb 23, 2012 -> 10:51 AM) The Sox will win exactly 76.5 games. QUOTE (flavum @ Feb 23, 2012 -> 11:25 AM) I'm optimistically saying the Sox will win 86 games. They won't make the playoffs, but they'll be better than what people think right now and have a lot of positives to look forward to for 2013. 86 might be a reach, but I fully expect them to outdo their expectations and then disappoint in 2013.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 23, 2012 -> 11:45 AM) Man does he still look skinny. I was hoping he would put a little more muscle on. He looks exactly like a guy I know in that picture. The guy happens to be the tallest, lankiest person I know. I'm glad Balta followed his pictures with the names of the players, as I had no idea that was Flowers.

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Feb 23, 2012 -> 10:29 AM) The Sox will have 84 wins this season. That sounds about right. Better than most would expect for this year when there are no expectations, but it'll simultaneously inflate the expectations for 2013. At which point, they'll disappoint.

QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Feb 23, 2012 -> 10:38 AM) Oh, how I loved that ballpark. I remember when there was no Dan Ryan. I was just a kid, I don't remember which street we drove down to get to the park but I remember my first glimpse of Comiskey Park. It was an August night and I was knocked out by the lights and how enormous the ballpark was. Back then especially in the summer you had the unusual aroma of the stockyards filling the air. That, combined with cigar/cigarette smoke and beer. It was glorious. I was part of both the largest crowd (55,555) and the smallest crowd (I believe it was 511) ever. The 55,555 was a bat day in 1973. I sat in the centerfield bleachers. You could see me in a crowd shot on the front page of the Tribune sports section the next day. I wrote to the Tribune and they sent me a black and white enlargement of the photo, which I still have. I ought to post it on here. The smallest announced crowd was only two years earlier. 1968-1971 were such dark days for the White Sox. Attendance was really really low. I went to several games when attendance was at around 1,000 or even below. You could sit anywhere you wanted. Usually I was stoned. I saw the White Sox lose a home opener 12-0 in front of about 11,000. I was at a drizzly September Monday doubleheader when the attendance was something like 600. Ah, those were the days! One of my favorite memories was sitting almost next to Harry Caray while he broadcast a game from the centerfield bleachers (with his shirt off). That was probably 1973. My worst memory was the home opener in 1974. Ron Santo made his White Sox debut that day. Making matters even worse, the game was held up a couple of times by streakers. One guy made it to centerfield wearing nothing but gym shoes and a White sox hat. He did a handstand before being whisked off. There were several fights/brawls and I remember one guy getting choked at the left field upperdeck railing. I seriously thought he was going to go plummeting to his death. Oh, yeah and the Sox lost to Nolan Ryan. What a crappy day. I swore I would never go to another opening day and I didn't until last year (though it was the Mariners!). I know plenty of stoners, but one of the last things I'd equate with them is baseball.