Milkman delivers

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:59 AM) One million votes for Timo. Don't just sit there and talk, rig it!

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:41 AM) Willie shouldn't be on here, he isn't going anywhere. Get rid of either Timo or Jizzcan or both, it doesn't matter. Shingo can leave, too. That's exactly how I was feeling when I read it.

I'd like to vote for a few of them, but I'll vote for Timo.

QUOTE(beck72 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:35 AM) A few things: *The sox won't go to a 4 man rotation. This wouldn't be an option *I would think Oakland needs more help with its everyday lineup than its pitching. Anderson might be as valuable for them as BMac Haha, maybe they're sending us Zito, too.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:29 AM) If you were Chavez, would you rather sit back and collect 10 mil a year on a constantly rebuilding club(lets face it, Oakland is gonna have a rough couple of years ahead of them regardless if Chavez is traded or not.) or press for a trade to a competing team? To me, it doesnt seem like he wants to jump off a sinking ship as much as he wants to compete for something. It just happens that the sinking ship is facilitating the need to compete. Loyalty means nothing in the game anymore, im not going to start holding it against someone now. Once again, I'm not blaming Chavez for doing this. I was just defending what I said earlier because a few other people jumped on what I said. I want Chavez on this team a hell of a lot and I'm glad he wants to come here. I'm not holding anything against anyone.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:27 AM) Regardless, I hope he is fueling the movement to get him out of there, whatever brings him here is good for me. This guy would fit in so well its unbelieveable, he is a clubhouse guy, would work for us offensively and defensively and would allow us to unload double play konerko next year. With as much as I hate Crede, I think you know that I'm also happy that he's urging to come here. = me.

QUOTE(Reddy @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:23 AM) the quote from HIM says he understands how baseball works the quote from WHOEVER says he wants out... hmmm I said earlier that it's probably both. I'm just pointing out that it says exactly what I said.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:22 AM) Is it uncommon for good players to want out of bad teams? No, it's not. I'm just supporting what I said in the beginning because people jumped all over it.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:19 AM) I don't think it's because he's "jumping ship" though.. I think it's because he realizes that he's not going to be part of the furture there. Saying he "wants out" is different than "understanding how baseball works." If he understands how baseball works, he can still want to stay in Oakland but still accept the fact that he's got to go. It says he wants out.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:18 AM) Baj, Cliff, Damaso, just like now without Hermy, it would be probably for only one or two starts, not a big deal. Plus you know that the plus's of having Chavez outweighs having an ok 6th starter so this isnt much of an argument to me. I really doubt they're going to take Hermanson out of the closer's role, especially with his back problems.

"With Oakland already buried in the AL West basement, Chavez is there for the taking. And he wants out of Oakland so bad that he’s the one who apparently is fueling the trade rumor to the Sox." He wants out...that sounds to me like he wants out, like I said earlier. Some people jumped on me for saying that.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 09:17 AM) uh huh, another Crede bomb, please dont break the streak. My pleasure. Crede sucks and two homeruns aren't gonna change my mind.

QUOTE(nvxplorer @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 01:09 AM) Lefty/lefty isn't bulls***. It's an age old tactic used by every manager, all the time. Ozzie isn't in "love" with the pitcher/batter stategy any more than any other manager. He puts in Cotts to face lefties when lefties bat much better against him than righties. He has Everett play against righty pitchers even though his BA against righties is horrendous. Etc.

Antidisestablishmentarianism.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:07 AM) I don't think it's nearly as bad as what he said about Showalter or the "real man" comment. Can someone explain these two things?

QUOTE(professionalfan @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 11:31 PM) Are you kidding me? You guys were all for this guy in spring training, then he gets called up and only gets to throw 4 times in a month, gives up no runs until tonight where only 1 ball was hit hard off of him, and you not only say that he sucks, but make it personal like he is a jerk? Give me a break! He did the best he could given the circumstances which sucked to begin with. Kevin Walker, is that you? If it is, you suck and you'll never see the majors again.

Does KW make a move for a reliever any time soon? What does everyone think?

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 08:46 PM) or Konerko. That is the hilarious part about the Konerko sucks crowd. They got their wish tonight, and he was on the bench. Once again, be careful what you wish for. Clearly, nobody wants Konerko sitting to play Timo.

Vizcaino still sucks a lot.

Nobody's warming in the pen!

Timo f***s up yet again. That was a "great recovery by an outfielder" though. DJ, Hawk, and Ozzie need to get the f*** off of his nuts. And how dare they even say he's done halfway decent today.

QUOTE(whitesoxjr27 @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 08:35 PM) this is one of the worst games i have seen in awhile. I can't believe how many times I've seen someone say that recently. I also can't believe that it's always true.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 08:26 PM) Let's see when ozzie started timo at first we all new what would happen. Guess what? It did and it cost us two runs. I can't remember one game, not one single game this whole year that Timo played in, where he didn't make at least one mistake. It's like clockwork.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 08:19 PM) Vizcaino did nothing wrong last inning. He forced the DP by the second batter he faced. We should have never pitched to Molina with an open base. He sucks. I'm not gonna have this argument. And so does Timo f***ing Perez.

So, have we seen enough of Vizcaino to decide that he sucks? Do we need to give him another month to f*** us over? If you don't realize he sucks now, you are retarded. Walker, same deal.