DukeNukeEm

I really dont, but I don't really have the choice not to. Society, etc.

Here's the thing, and you already know this about me, I don't necessarily care about the lives saved by anything. Sometimes I pretend to, because I'm an asshole, but much more often I don't think the consequence of outlawing human behavior is really relevant. The way I see it once you go down that route it's one big slippery slope where everything is nerfed in this country so nobody gets hurt or feels bad. In just the time I've been alive, 90's, 00's and 10's I've noticed this slide markedly. I don't like it, George Carlin had a quote I really like that goes something like "were adding years to life, but not living to years." And he's right, all of us know he's right. Even if the event of fatal DUI crashes there's no malice. Most of the time they're not bad people. Now I'm willing to say if you wreck someone's s*** or kill them it's time for you to become acquainted with the criminal justice system, but in a vast majority of these cases were just creating criminals. Some guy at .10 driving 4 blocks home from the bar at 2 AM gets clipped at a DUI checkpoint (WHICH WE ACTUALLY STAND BY AND LET EXIST BECAUSE WE'RE SO f***ING SUBSERVIENT TO THE STATE) and now he's a criminal. He could be made into a felon. There were no victims, nobody got hurt; but now imaginary buzzed dude in his Monte Carlo is a criminal. Look, there's a line that people probably shouldn't cross. Would I be ripping coke from the filter of the Parliament casually drinking a 12 pack on some chemically induced blitz ride in an old M3 from Roanoke VA to Bangor ME now? No. And not just because I'd lose my job but because I don't want to risk it anymore. Personal responsibility, although nobody got hurt (and that is a very important point in and of itself, 1000 miles of that s*** without a scratch) I just won't do it anymore. The thing is I trust myself and the people around me to know when they've hit that point. I live and work amongst these people, statistically I'm much more likely to be killed by them than anyone in this thread, but I don't fear it constantly because I figure if someone was too far gone to drive they just wouldnt. Sure some will, but that's just a risk we have to live with.

I'm also holding back intense amount of frustration at the rampant use of the word clip to describe a magazine. I can't anymore. It hurts.

So let's make bad things happen to innocent people! If the concern here was just to make the roads safer they'd be going after cell phone use 10 times as hard as they are drinking. Not saying they wont, it's already kind of started, but people like their phones for now and haven't been brainwashed into thinking they are murderers for reading a text.

I meant that they were, my phone auto corrected AWD to AND because it's sentient. All AWD really means is your FWD car can send power the rear wheels too sometimes.

Just W of Janesville WI to The D. My cons appt isn't until 1300 tomorrow so I'm just going to cut in at Gary for the night and let INDoT do some some overnight plowing.

Well f***. Guess I get to stare at Gary hookers patrolling that T/A tonight.

Ugh, I'm actually supposed to pass through NWI this evening. How bad is 80/94? Should I just take the Skyway?

Doesn't matter what I'm driving. The .04 limit applies to a f***ing riding lawnmower. And yea, if I work myself up to a .14ish at home passing out at 2 AM and drive 3 miles to get an omelette at 7-8 AM you can bet there's something still floating around in my system. Even though I'm probably just hungover and the only effect alcohol is still having is a headache.

Well I obviously can't even drink at night and drive the next morning anymore because my limit is .04. And if I get one I'm Royally f***ed. So yea, I have the self control even if I'm playing by an absolutely ridiculous set of rules.

.08 is by definition two beers. Two. As in 2. 1 + 1. That's not a matter of self control. That's a matter of blunt force solutions to relatively nonexistent problems. The drunks out on the roads are no more likely to kill you than half blind Grandpa or riced out Corolla treating public roads like the Monaco GP.

Here we are on the path to the Minority Report argument that I'm not sure if I've had on ST yet. Let's just go through the formalities: But how do you from certain a guy after 3 beers is going to kill someone? How do you even know who's fault it actually is when if one driver has a drop in his system everyone just gives up investigating and exclaims "DRUNK DRIVING KILLS BOOM /GAVEL"? It's .04 for CDL's nationwide no matter what we're driving. I could be riding a bike at .05 and I get a DUI. Ludicrous.

AND is vastly different than 4WD. I love spinning my little RWD Miata around in the snow. Throw the all seasons on (lol) and it basically goes sideways if I even turn the steering wheel Most fun you can have in a car is a footish of snow, an empty parking lot and a Mazda Miata on summer tires.

Well, you'd have to struggle to get pulled over for a DUI in Chicago. Maybe wrong way down Lake Shore Dr in reverse with your left turn signal on would get them to at least breathalyze you.

Oh no it is f***ing not. Drunk driving is drunk driving. Since when are people so gullible when it comes to this s***? You all drink, right? You know. Why is it not enough to just say "it's up to you if you had too much but if you kill someone it's your ass"?

Im pretty sure those crazed MADD whores have coerced the federal govt into withholding highway funds from any state not at .08. I could be wrong. Just an fyi- if you can just feel the effect of booze it doesn't mean you are impaired. Something nobody seems to point out when these loons lobby for (and get) these totalitarian nanny state laws passed

Equating that to driving after drinking 3 beers (That's a DUI in our f***ed in the head country) is stupid.

It's not as dangerous as people make it out to be. This teenage girl that weighs like 110 lbs was legally drunk and high on scripts managed to drag race a Lamborghini without incident. There's maybe 50 people in this country that are actually f***ed up at .10; much less .08. It's all about control and the pockets of criminal defense lawyers who would be on SNAP if those laws went away.

That comment about Indians and affording stuff took an enviable amount of balls to say. Seriously, the f***ing stones on that guy to actually say that!

When I did it nobody got hurt. When Bieber did it nobody got hurt. Where's the victim?

Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaa That's harsh.

I think you're misinterpreting my post. This really isn't that bad of an offense, I've definitely done similar s***. So have many.

Isn't Lindsey Lohan an American citizen?

He pretty much has, but he made ludicrous money over media frenzy so if they decide to lynch him for this I won't feel bad. I genuinely dislike everything about him.

We are all victims of Justin Bieber because we are constantly exposed to stories like this that are f***ing retarded and nobody should care about but somehow we do. But, in this particular instance, who did he actually hurt to warrant 6 months in jail?