sin city sox fan

This isn't the first time Grifol has looked bad. Seems to happen 3-4 times per day minimum

If this team is going to suck so badly, I figured I might as well start making money off them.

I knew this team was going to historical bad before the season started. I pegged them for about 30 wins and am now thinking that was generous. That's why I didn't even think about a spring training trip this year and have no plans to see a game at all this year in Chicago or on a west coast road trip. I'll save my money for things that can be enjoyable (and right now White Sox baseball is not on that list)

This is what happens when a low budget owner hires a low budget GM.

We did gat a bonus point for the milkshake though. At least this organization did one thing to improve in the offseason.

That game was fun but I still keep the over / under at 30 wins for the season.

Dead guys could still manage better than Pedro

I think Grifol should under these words after all 10-15 wins this season. As bad as he is, every win should be a surprise and an embarrassment to whomever we beat.

I'll stick with the under.

Grifol could call a team meeting and zero players might show. That's how little leadership I think he has.

I'm not expecting us to contend for the playoffs til probably 2030......But I want to see some improvement next season. Back to back years with 30-35 wins could be unwatchable.

Whats realistic for the start of the rebuild next season? If we get a new manager and add a couple of mid level starters, can we reach 45 wins? 50 wins? I don't see more than 30 this year, so is a 50-65% improvement realistic or do you expect more?

Bevington was 10x the manager that Grifol is.....and that is no compliment. I would take Carrot Top, Screech, or Pee Wee Herman over either of this imbecibles.

A replacement was needed 2 years ago (before he ever managed his first game)

Going 61-101 with this years team may have been acceptable. Having that record with last years team was not. And losing 120+ games this year with this crappy roster is still not. He's the worst manager in the history of MLB and its not questionable.

Unless positive changes happen midseason, I really think 35-40 wins is our max for this year. Its not possible for a team with no hitting, no pitching, and the worst manager in the history of baseball to do any better.

As long as Grifol is around, we will never be competitive. It just depends when Reinsdorf is ready to bite the bullet on this horrible hire. Bring back Ozzie.

I'm guessing 35 wins....40 if the team over performs. With a roster of below average talent and the worst manager in MLB, this is realistic expectations.

A stripper pole in every section and 1000 entertainers working them. Make it the largest gentlemens club in the country and every game will be sold out.

Just bring back Hawk!

I don't care who takes the field as long as Grifol is manager. We will never win with him as the leader so I'm just waiting for the day he is fired so I can be enthusiastic about the Sox once again.

I hope you are right about Pedro but Nightengale is reporting otherwise and i doubt JR wants to pay for 2 years of him golfing.

Hawk Harrelson and Tony LaRussa replace Hahn and Williams! (I seriously hope not....but you never know what JR will do!)

If Jerry hasn't seen enough already this season to let a new GM show Pedro the door, another 65 win season isn't going to do the job. He's either gone come October or he'll be around at least 2 more seasons to fulfill his contract.

I won't be back until Grifol is gone. His performance this season has made us all forget how bad Tony LaRussa was last year.