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QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jul 12, 2005 -> 01:03 PM) I have to admit I was relying on Griffey's past and stature as a measure of his D. I didn't bother to crunch the numbers. Yes, it's possible Juggs can put together a post w/out looking at the numbers. When I do you guys always catch me on it http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/fieldi...llInningsPlayed 05 F% AR 13th .990, KGJ 16th .985 05 IP AR 7th 717, KGJ 12th 680 05 TC AR 14th 191, KGJ 10th 199 05 A AR 23rd 2, KGJ 17th 3 05 RF AR 17th 2.37, KGJ 10th 2.60 05 ZR AR 4th .923, KGJ 22nd .820 Cincy pitchers are generating more hits right at KGJ than White Sox pitchers are for Rowand. But Rowand is covering a LOT more ground than KGJ these days. Griffey has the better arm, but a 3-2 assist advantage is insignificant. I think it's time some of you start giving Aaron props. 2004 ZR AR 1st .921 KGJ DNP enough The Southtown obviously does not value Rowand enough either to even suggest KGJ. Post season championships are won on pitching, big plays, & big hits. Aaron has a better chance of helping all 3 categories than KGJ. Let's just hope Aaron starts hitting again but like Crede his glove talent has earned him that everyday player status. Finally, someone who can admit they are wrong.

Isnt a remake of "The Wicker Man" in production right now? I kept reading blips and blurbs about it on www.darkhorizons.com but I never really found out if it was made or not. I know Josh Hartnett was connected to it for a while

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jul 12, 2005 -> 11:59 AM) Its funny how you completely ignore the rest of the post. The reason he is good in the 1st half is because he is fresh. Thats where the 20 day suspension comes in. To keep him fresh for the 2nd half. Its Funny how you ignore his post all-star break numbers being significantly worse than his pre all-star game numbers. So you welcome a pitcher with baggage and a 20 game suspension, on the hunch that Rogers wont be his regular second half self? Thats a pretty big gamble on the Gambler. Ill pass

I thought 1-8-7 with Samuel Jackson had a pretty shocking ending. Powder also threw me for a loop, it was just an odd ending.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Jul 12, 2005 -> 11:37 AM) "BASEBALL AS A HUMBLER Hopefully the release of Bret Boone and the demotion of Corey Patterson will be good things for these guys' careers. Sometimes players get too comfortable and/or cocky and need a taste of failure to realize that they aren't the greatest thing since sliced bread. In both cases that might be true. Patterson's case is harder to figure out because when he came to the majors he seemed like a potentially great all-around player. Now he doesn't do anything right anymore. He doesn't field particularly well, he strikes out too much and he doesn't get on base. It seems like he got a little too comfortable in the majors and now the Cubs are telling him that he needs to shape up or be shipped out. Boone is a little different because he's one of the cockiest people I've ever met. Anybody who has ever met him will attest to the fact that he's cocky as all g't out. Being cut by the Seattle Mariners could be a huge wake-up call. The worst thing that could happen to a player is to get cut by his team because it's the ultimate "you're done" move. This may make him realize that this game is not to be messed around with and will humble him. " Did you write this, or is this a link?

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jul 12, 2005 -> 11:32 AM) Kenny Rogers is a pretty good option. Last year he had a great 1st half and than sunk in the 2nd half. This year he has had an amazing first half. Thats where the 20 day suspension comes in. I think It could actually be better because it gives his arm a chance to relax so he wont falter down the stretch. Also with him being old it wont cost much in terms of prospects. Have you ever heard the term "Hiding in plain sight."? I have been trying to point that out to you, he is always good in the first half and sucks in the second half, especially when it matters. You see it yourself, you just dont want to admit it because he is sporting a 2.41 ERA right now.

QUOTE(quickman @ Jul 12, 2005 -> 11:22 AM) This is very interesting it appears that many on this board think we can win this thing with the team we have. very interesting, I personally do not think we can. What happens when we lose 3 out of four to the indians, are all the same people going tostart clamoring for a trade? I have seen many Sox teams over decades, outside of 83 and 93 this is the best team I have seen from the sox. As proven in the past, teams like this do not come along very often, to sustain, our luck, our pitching our timely hitting and the mediorcre play of the Twins lately I believe we need to think bigger than the try hard happy go lucky guys we have. Talent will always eventually win over scrappiness. Get better talent, and yes for THIS year visquel would be great, he is proven, batting well, and fielding is equal to Uribe, not to mention he would be a good leader. Furthermore what makes everyone think El Duque is coming back and will not get injured again, or that Crede won't hurt his back, or that injury prone guys like Everett, or dye won't get injured again, or that teams won't figure out iguchi, from all they learned in the first half, or that Thomas won't stub his toe or twist his ankle. We need more. Don't think for a minute Minnesota or the Tribe will stand pat. I dont feel that the Sox can win without making a move. I just think that Kenny Rogers would be the wrong move to make.

Sounds like he will work out there fine with his unselfish attitude....

QUOTE(forrestg @ Jul 12, 2005 -> 10:54 AM) sure have but right now Rogers is at the top of his game So do you want him knowing that he will have to serve a 20 game suspension? Dont you think he might be needed for those 3 or 4 starts he will miss due to this suspension? Wouldnt that put the Sox in a bind? Come on, think through this. Rogers is not the answer to any question you ask. Who could help the Sox in the Second Half? Who could help the Sox down the stretch? Who could help the Sox in the ALDS? Who could help the Sox in the ALCS? Who could help the Sox in the World Series? He isnt a money player.

LOL, this is too funny. I have read so many threads like this

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 12, 2005 -> 10:41 AM) DO you have any years to go with those numbers, because he has just really started to get dominant in the last several years. The splits that I gave a hyperlink to were the past 3 years. The post-season numbers are here http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/rogerke01.shtml about halfway down the page

QUOTE(forrestg @ Jul 12, 2005 -> 10:41 AM) Visquel isn't any better than what we got. Schmidt hasn't proven that he's got his form back. I'd say if we are going to get someone old get Kenny Rogers at least he's proven he can pitch this year of course there would be contingency in his contract about how he should be kinder and gentler with cameramen. And while you're at it get Bagwell Frank and Bagwell both have almost the same amount of homers and could celebrate their birthday together. Remember KW in an interview money wouldn't be a problem. Get If we made the trade quickly we could have 3 starting pitchers in the all star game. green maybe? hopefully?

This was my email that was read:

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jul 12, 2005 -> 10:34 AM) B-Mac is what Garland was then but younger. So you are ready to wait another 5 years until BMac gets it figured out? thats laughable, BMac needs some time to develop.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jul 12, 2005 -> 10:27 AM) For those of you all saying Griffey cant play defense this year, have you guys actually watched him at all more than once or twice if at all? This question always cracks me up. "You havent seen him, I have and you are wrong" We all see the same highlights on basically the same show(BBTN and various local outlets) and I dont see the same Junior whatsoever. Also, why the need for another oft-injured outfielder/DH? There is none. Junior isnt a pipedream, he is a pipe-bomb.

Ha, Carmen and Silvy just read my email arguing against this trade. LOL

QUOTE(JDsDirtySox @ Jul 12, 2005 -> 09:21 AM) Have You Seen Griffey play this season? Griffey is having a very good year. I am sure you have seen Rowand play this season. What exactly has Rowand done this year to make him "Aaron Almighty" in your eyes. Yes I have. And I have seen him play the first half of 2001, 2002, 2003, and 2004. All of those years had the same ending. Griffey on the DL with a major injury and the Reds being the worst team in a 6 team division. I never said Aaron was almighty, in fact I mentioned his name once. Like I said, KGJ of the past would be no contest, just as Aaron being the better of the two now is no contest. Besides, if Junior ever came to the AL again he would be the DH in a heartbeat, it is ridiculous to even consider Junior starting centerfield for any AL team, no matter how desperate.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jul 12, 2005 -> 08:04 AM) Exactly, and to say Rowand is even close to this guy defensively is a joke. Rowand does not get half the jump Junior gets. It is fine to be a homer but don't make such ridiculous statements such as Rowand is a better defensive CF than Junior. That is just nuts. This is a joke. Griffey is nowhere near where Rowand is right now in speed, athleticism, and strength. And he hasnt been for the past 5 years. Since Griffey has been in Cincinnatti, he has played 145 games, 111 games, 70, 53, and 83 games. Most of the games missed due to major injuries to his legs. He is fragile, and knows he cannot run full speed without blowing out a hamstring again and it shows. He doesnt make gold glove catches out there anymore, he barely can lay out for a fly ball anymore. When Griffey was in Seattle, sure there is no comparison. But right now Rowand is by far the superior fielder, and I dont expect that to change. http://www.basketballdraft.com/2004/scorec...fense.outfield/ In 2001, Junior suffered a hamstring injury during spring training that limited him to a handful of at-bats early in the regular season and shelved him completely until June, Torn Right Patellar Tendon(2002), Torn Right Hamstring(2004), Dislocated Right Shoulder(2003) After four years with the Reds, Griffey had played in only 58% of his team's games, and hit no higher than .286. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/scouting?statsId=4305 Lets stop living in the past. Griffey cant play a full season anymore, and cant make it to october healthy, rendering him useless to the White Sox.

they posted the longest homeruns of the Homerun derby, and I was surprised that Frank wasnt on that list. I could swear he hit one 511 feet in Pittsburgh, and hit another one nearly as long in another All Star game(Cleveland?)

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 8, 2005 -> 01:04 PM) Zach Galifianakis One of my favorite comedians of the modern day. I bought Out Cold because of how funny he is in that movie, he also has a small part in Bubble Boy that had me cracking up

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 11, 2005 -> 10:37 AM) Personally, Im under the opinion that if we make a deal with any team from Florida, its going to be for a hitter named Huff. With the way he hit at the Cell last week, that wouldnt bother me one bit.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 11, 2005 -> 10:07 AM) I had a family member that worked with the Charlotte Knights when Kip was there. Trust me, the organization didn't like him at all. I'm not going to state any particulars, but I'm 100 pct sure Wells won't play for the Sox again. Come on fathom, you know better than to come with the "I know somebody who knows somebody and they said, well I cant go into details...."

QUOTE(Grebeck Fan Club @ Jul 11, 2005 -> 06:36 AM) Do the Sox need to make a move? That's the big question. If Marte comes back and if they stick El Duque in a freezer and thaw him out in October, where does this team need to improve? I suppose shortstop but do you want to trade two or three good prospects for a guy like Rafael Furcal? X-Box mania strikes again.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Jul 11, 2005 -> 10:01 AM) details.....? naaaaah, more like assertions....

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 10, 2005 -> 03:04 PM) Ever since Arow got into this funk, the one thing i've noticed is that he has been over the top of almost everything other than the really high stuff. It's like he just can't get his bat to go down. He is flying out too quick trying to pull the ball. I think this homerun talk has gotten into his head, and he is trying to hit more homeruns.