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Wow, Laazdotcom was here and went. That quick!

Thats a great idea. Boyer keeps em coming, thats for sure.

QUOTE(Southside hitmen @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 11:59 AM) I read on the Astros board that Andy Pettitte is on the trading block. What would it take to get Pettitte He probably has a no-trade clause, and he is making 8.5 million this year. he wouldnt be cheap, thats for sure.

High School: Cardinal Red and Canary yellow (batavia bulldogs) College:Maroon and White (SIU Salukis rule!) High school was a bit brutal, they didnt really know how to make the colors go together well until my senior season when they put alot of grey into the uniforms and made yellow more of a background color.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 11:48 AM) Its was well reported back a few years ago. Jay isn't allowed in the ballpark, they don't want him there. His cronies do his digging for him now. Jay? This article is By Mike Celizic

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 11:42 AM) I've said it before & I will say it again. We did not get enough for what Carlos Lee was worth at the time. Milw was not the only team calling Kenny. There will several suitors for Lee. I don't think you realize how much you overpaid. You traded a guy coming off a career year who was clearly the MVP of a team for the NL's SB leader who was coming off a bad year at the plate & a average at best relief pitcher. The PTBNL was a joke. The Brewers had to be laughing their arses off as soon as KW consented to the deal. That had speed on the team to compensate for the loss of Pods. To them it was no big deal. Getting Lee was huge. The fact he is leading the NL in RBI is something they themselves couldn't have dreamed up. If it had to be Lee (I'm still not convinced of that) then we had better be getting 2 solid RP with Pods. In all trade talk starting from last July it was believed that a team had to be willing to give up a #2/#3 starter for Lee. If you're going to shift that focus to a SB leader then you better damn well be getting top of the line help in relief. 29 yr old RH Mike Wise 04 2.93 NPERA, .659 OOP 26 yr old RH Mike Adams 04 2.95 NPERA .666 OOP Luis Vizc 04 3.34 NPERA .724 OOP Pods+Wise+Adams for Lee is reasonable. The Bullpen could have been: Hermy, Wise, Politte, Cotts, Marte, Shingo You have the option of bringing Adams up when Shingo struggled. How many losses do we at the hands of poor pitching by Luis? At least 6. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/gamelog?statsId=6291 All 1 run games & all games where Luis gave up 1 or more R. Mike Wise leads the NL in NPERA for relievers this year. Cost? $350K I don't want to hear that KW couldn't get these guys. C Lee 04 RPG 6.70, 103R, 99RBI, 310TB S Pods 04 RPG 4.34 85R, 39RBI, 233TB When it comes to trades the NUMBERS mean a whole LOT more than potential. I dont think this has been said about the Carlos Lee trade. Get over it. its over and done. Player value is subject to mostly perception and opinion, and then money, and in the distance, talent. the reality is that the White Sox are way better off from the trade then the Milwaukee Brewers are. This cannot be disputed, the Sox have the best record in the majors. And after this year the Brewers are going to have to start thinking about Carlos Lee's escalating salary. A-Rod was traded for Alphonso Soriano and cash, in what was considered a very lopsided deal. Since A-Rod left the team, the Rangers have been by far better than they were when A-Rod was still on the team. Do you think rangers fans b**** and moan about having the better player on their team? No, because they have a much better TEAM, they arent paying over 1/4 of their payroll to one player and can now distribute the money. Could the Rangers have gotten better players for A-Rod? Sure, Manny Ramirez was almost a Ranger. Bottom line is that it doesnt matter anymore. It is done, and now it is just crying over spilled milk, when the cow is three feet away(and currently the best team in the majors).

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 11:32 AM) My only knock on the guy is that he is supposedly a major control freak. Those supposed 'Pumpkins' albums are really the Billy Corgan experience. He played everything in the studio on most of the tracks because he was never really satisfied with the way the other members did it. The rest of them were just around for touring. I wonder what it really is that he misses about the Pumpkins. Im guessing it is the attention. He probably realized he will never have the same spotlight as a solo artist or fronting Zwan.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 11:20 AM) He has only been to the new ballpark once since it opened. Now they won't let him in it. seriously?

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 11:04 AM) The guy is such a f***ing putz. He really seems to think he is more to the music landscape than he really is. Like we really give a f*** about him thta much? Man, I can't stand the guy, and he is nothing more than a local star. The rest of the country really doesn't care all that much about him, and the rest of the world REALLY doesn't. The thing is, Chicago puts out so few Top 10 acts (popular stuff here) of this sort, that when we do, we seem to think the bands are more important than they really are. To match the fact that the guy is a raging Cub fan, he is also an arrogant prick and a mediocre songwriter and a lowsy guitarist. What a shmuck. Billy Corgan is alot of things. Arrogant, self centered, raging Cub fan. But a mediocre songwriter and lowsy guitarist, and nothing more than a local star? The Pumpkins were alot more than just local stars. I dont even like the pumpkins all that much, but they were a hell of alot more than just local stars.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 11:11 AM) When you see him grab the bandwagon to jump on, stomp the hell out of his hands. That will keep him off the bandwagon, and keep him from typing for a while. I was planning on chopping off his fingers so he cannot grab on and he also cannot type. 2 birds, 1 stone.

In 93 and 94, the Sox couldnt lose either. This guy is a tool.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 10:59 AM) He is not a band-wagon jumper. Don't you see his sarcasm in this piece? It's yet another hatchet job to difuse the excitement White Sox fans are feeling. He's an unhappy Cub fan who is jealous of what you the White Sox fan are feeling right now. So in the midst of your celebration of homer happy Monday night he throwing cold water on your head by mentioning every negative thing that's occured he could think of. That's not a band-wagoner. That's a Grinch. He would like nothing more than to steal this season from you. I tend to think he is starting to run behind the bandwagon right now. He always catches on before its too late. He isnt on the bandwagon, but he is getting close. If the Cubs get demolished next weekend, he will be driving the bandwagon. He did the same thing when the Cubs went to the playoffs in 03, it is just taking him a little while to fall off the Cubs bandwagon.

QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 10:50 AM) I would love it if Marriotti could stay with a team for an entire year. He is a band-wagon jumper. Only if that team is in China. Maybe he can move there and insult everyone in his path there. Im sure the Communist regime will appreciate his candor and non-bias.

Speaking of Dumbasses and Insider Info, does anyone around here have ESPN insider? The Royals rah rah Rob Neyer has some disparaging information about the White Sox and why they shouldnt be winning, and I was wondering what it entailed. The story is in the middle of the ESPN page under Ozzies smiling face with the title "The White Sox are winning games they shouldn't win. Rob Neyer offers three American League stats that you should know. " If it could be posted I would be a happy drinker

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 10:25 AM) A friend of mine told me that Billy Corgan took out a FULL page ad in today's Trib. In it he says, among other things, that he wants to get The Smashing Pumpkins back together. I don't really care about Billy or the Pumpkins, but I found that to be an interesting way of trying to communicate with your ex-band mates. Anyone else see this? That is really wierd considering that Corgan is releasing (or already released) his solo album soon. You would think he would put his focus into that. I hope the pumpkins dont turn into some The Who parody, going on tour everytime a bandmate runs out of money(cough cough, roger daltrey, cough cough). I always think its a shame when a band has their "last concert ever" and pimps hundreds of people out of 1000 dollar tickets (to the metro, no less) and turns around 5 years later and gets back together. It really taints their "last show ever", and makes it seem like a farce.

On my way to work today I was thinking about starting a thread like this. Being a former DJ it always intrigues me to find new music and what other people like. My suggestion for the year/month/day/minute? Anything by Ken Andrews, writer/producer of Failure, The Replicants, Year of the Rabbit, and On. Also a collaborative artist with Tool, Blinker the Star, Perfect Circle, etc.. If you havent heard of the band Failure(dont feel bad if you havent) check out the album "Fantastic Planet", its a concept album of a french cartoon(a cartoon that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever) and it has to be one of the best albums I have. recently his solo project "On" has really drawn me in. also another side project "Year of the Rabbit" really rocks, and I would recommend it to anyone who likes some moody alternative rock. www.kenandrews.com is where you can find out about what he is about, and also listen to a killer hook that really defines what his music sounds like. Check it out, I dont think it will dissapoint you. And my 1A choice is Blinker the Star. I have heard about these guys for a long time, and finally got around to listening to the music. Me likey. Me likey alot.

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 09:17 AM) Imagine if JR would have sprung for Clement instead of El Duque... When Matt Clement was interviewed when he came back into town for the Boston/Cubs showdown, he said that the Sox made a very comparable offer to what boston was offering, and it came down to going with the World Champs or staying in Chicago. I cant fault him for taking a little more money and going to a recent world champion.

I am convinced that Mariotti never watches games, he only reads boxscores and messageboards.

QUOTE(chi-guy2 @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 08:04 PM) he cant throw anyone out He had Podsednik gunned down at third, Teahen dropped the ball when Podsedniks foot hit his glove. Thats not Bucks fault.

I like that John Buck kid that the Royals got from the Beltran trade. I think he is gonna be a good catcher. He is a pretty good hitter too.

I didnt believe Dye could steal any bases, but he has proved me wrong.

Limatime isnt doing as much talking as he is griping.

Finally a player slides around the tag correctly! Woohoo!

That whole row of fans that interfered earlier is gone now, thats funny.

AJ is money when the ball is in the air.