the reason i created it right afterwards is because i meant to include it in my first thread, i think i put "ALSO" in caps at the front of it to show that, thats my bad. im not trying to tell you how to live or anything, man, but maybe you should lighten up just a little. yeah, i called out the people that want to trade crede, so that they would defend their position. im provoking discussion, which is the point of this forum. do you want me to use shakespearean english next time, and say pretty please at the end to sound extra polite? comn, man! are you seriously going to boot me off of here for that? i cant believe it!