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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11261495/ I might have been right in my assumption that Jack-off knew Georgie Porgy.

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Link Evangelicals launch environment crusade By Frank James Washington Bureau Published February 9, 2006 WASHINGTON -- A group of evangelical Christian leaders kicked off a national campaign Wednesday to urge Congress to pass legislation to limit carbon dioxide emissions, contending that decreasing the human role in global warming was central to putting faith into action. The evangelical leaders said they were acting not only out of a sense of stewardship for the Earth as God's creation but also out of concern for the poor who are most often the hardest hit by hurricanes, floods and other natural disasters linked to climate change. Through a national advertising campaign using television, radio and print media--including an ad running in Thursday's New York Times with a statement signed by 86 of the Christian leaders--the evangelicals said they hoped to further the growing momentum for environmentalism within many churches. Evangelical Christians for many years have been portrayed in the media as virtually a wing of the Republican Party and many hold views that are all but indistinguishable from the GOP's platform. But evangelicals say they have always been a more diverse group than media portrayals have suggested. Still, the group of 86 acknowledged that other evangelicals, including some notable leaders, have expressed doubts about whether humans are a factor in global warming and have also steered clear of environmentalism, which they have long associated with the liberal, secular culture. But the evangelical leaders said they hoped their new campaign would win those doubting evangelicals over to their side. "In the 1st Century the Roman world was a tumultuous place," said Leith Anderson, pastor of the Wooddale Church, a megachurch in Eden Prairie, Minn. "And St. Peter wrote to the Christians and said do what is right and don't be afraid. And that's what we as evangelicals are stepping up to do on the issue of climate change. "Those 86 of us who have signed this statement and others as well are saying that we believe we are doing what is right and we are not afraid," Anderson said. "We're convinced that God created the world and entrusted it to us and we're concerned about the impact of global warming upon those who are the poorest of the poor and the marginalized in society." Because evangelical Christians for many years have had a close relationship with Republicans and specifically with President Bush, a born-again Christian, the relationship has produced results, according to political experts. Evangelicals were galvanized to act over the atrocities in the Darfur region of Sudan long before many other Americans had even heard of the crisis there. Their interest was due to many of the victims being Christians while the aggressors were Muslims associated with the government. The analysts credit the agitation of evangelicals for keeping the pressure on the Bush administration to make Sudan a foreign policy priority. The environmental evangelists hope similar pressure on environmental issues will move the administration to support limits on U.S. carbon dioxide emissions. To date, the administration has opposed such limits. But environmental issues have proved divisive within the body of believers who identify themselves as evangelicals. Some who believe the world is in the "end times," with a return of Jesus imminent, have not seen the necessity of protecting the environment for the long term. Others, meanwhile, have taken the view espoused by the evangelicals who unveiled their campaign Wednesday, that humans were given dominion over the Earth with the responsibility to protect it. Members of the Evangelical Climate Initiative at Wednesday's news conference included Todd Bassett, the Salvation Army's commissioner; Jo Ann Lyon, president of World Hope International; Duane Litfin, president of Wheaton College in Illinois; and Anderson. Later, they met with some members of the Senate Energy Committee to discuss possible legislation to restrict carbon emissions. Jim Ball, executive director of the Evangelical Environmental Network, commended Bush's call during his State of the Union address last week for more research into cleaner energy sources, saying it was a good move as far as it went. "What we need is a requirement that carbon dioxide start to be reduced," Ball said. "That's the legislation we need. Legislation saying there is a requirement. That we deal with this in a business-friendly way, dealing with market-based mechanisms." But the evangelical environmentalists face strong headwinds in their effort. Numerous conservatives oppose limits on carbon dioxide emissions. Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.) issued a news release about a letter he sent to his Senate colleagues saying that the National Association of Evangelicals, the largest and most important of the evangelical groups, backed away from taking a position against global warming after considering doing so. That group apparently decided not to support carbon dioxide limits after it was prodded by another group associated with such widely influential evangelical leaders as James Dobson, founder of the Focus on the Family radio program and organization, and Charles Colson, a former Nixon administration aide.

QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 07:12 PM) I s*** all over rap because it deserves to be shat on, American Beauty does not deserve that treatment. That movie wasn't very good. And the Grateful Dead blow. Zero talent. Nothing innovative.

QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 07:10 PM) Ha. Grateful Dead sucks, but Aerosmith doesnt? If music was a truck, and it hit you.. youd think a feather landed on you. Don't get so offended. You s*** all over an entire genre of music without blinking an eye and now you can't handle it when someone s***s on 1 album you like.

QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 07:07 PM) Yea, thats probably because you played video games in your parents basement your whole youth. No. They just suck. Besides we couldn't afford video games.

QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 07:05 PM) I aint even gonna bother voting... all I know is we got complete homo's in here who think some crappy Aerosmith (worst band ever) over an alltime great like Sugar Magnolia Sugar Magnolia sucks.

You have to throw in father Bush when compiling a list of worst presidents of all time.

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 01:36 PM) Uproar?? Dam dude we're talking about music here not Mohammed.... Well I'm on my way to DukeNukeEm's and NUKE CLEVELAND's to riot and throw molitov cocktails. This is blasphemy!!!

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 10:57 AM) #2 is really not any good at all, so I would agree it's all hype. I did some pre listening to it and didn't even buy it to be honest. His first album was really well done IMO though, he still had that cockiness, but wasn't an arrogant prick. Also, it seemed like he put much more time and effort into the first album, whereas album #2 he figured he could just put anything onto it and people would buy it (and hey, that thought turned out to be accurate). I disagree. I find the 2nd album more appealing.

Happy Birthday!!!

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 10:38 AM) ?? More info please. I made up that 2nd part.

Obama gets the grammy for spoken word. Every Senator who has won a grammy has gone on to be President.

QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 08:11 AM) Regardless... the title of the thread is pretty clear.. and if you don't have any purpose other then to come in here and s*** back on someone's opinion, then that's on you. Some rap does suck. So does some pop, country, rock, classic, etc, etc... Pretty lame to take offense to someone's opinion that didn't personally attack you, no? BTW if someone started a thread that was titled " Sucks" you might not take it very well. It's ignorant and adds no value. And I'm not sure why you love picking on me.

QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 08:11 AM) Pretty lame to take offense to someone's opinion that didn't personally attack you, no?p Women suck.

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 01:07 AM) Haha, no not really. It all starts with RUN DMC in 1983 when the Party Rap Era was starting to fade a bit. That's pretty much when I became a huge fan of the genre. I wore out all of my Run DMC records. Currently a big fan of MF Doom, Blackalicious, Ras Kass, J5, Little Brother, GZA, and Dooley O.

I just think it's pretty lame to start a thread titled 'Rap Sucks'. It's a very popular form of music and I take offense when I hear a comment like that. Can you imagine the uproar if I started a 'Dave Matthews Band Sucks' or 'U2 Sucks' thread?

Saw 'Happy Accidents' on IFC earlier this week. Very good movie. Stars Marissa Tomei and Vencent D'Nofrio. Very well written.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 01:31 PM) WORD!! on the food comment. Comiskey is AWESOME on the grub. Really, on the inside (not talking about the OF, just talking down the lines) it's starting to look a lot like the Ballpark in Arlington, and that's not a bad thing. I'll have to hit you and Tex up next time I'm in town. Went to Arlington last year. Very cool stadium. One of my favorites.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 12:07 AM) We all saw how tough on terror the Clinton Administration was on terrorists after the Air Force Barracks bombing in Saudi Arabia in 1996, or the embassy bombings in 1998, and the US Cole attack in 2000. Perhaps you just learned how to read but I just said my political acumen was pathetic at best during the Clinton era. Apparently spewing anti-Clintonian propaganda will allow me to back him up or something.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 12:03 AM) Well its good that you can take the anti-this administration stuff from the findings of the 9/11 commission, however just ignore the comments made about the previous administration and their handling of the terrorism. Because the 9 months that Bush was in office really is compelling when you look at the body of work on how he could of prevented 9/11. Maybe if we also look at the facts of items that happened since the first bombing of the world trade center, and the years of other acts of terrorism by Al Queda before 9/11. The fact that he was listed as a very real threat, and of course was ignored by the previous administration. These to me are also compelling on why we got hit. But then I forget, 9/11 like all things evil are the result of Bush. And only the things that happened under his watch matter. If you can point out the faults of the previous administration why not this one? They obviously ignored the facts up to 9/11 as well. Is there ANYTHING that this administration has done wrong in your opinion?

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 11:51 PM) Cornered in a mountainous area is the same thing as having a predator with its sights trained on an individual sitting out in the open. Ask any military person which is the easier target, the rat in one of many holes in a mountain, or the tall guy having a picnic out in a field. I think even our video gamers in this forum could of taken Bin Laden out with the Predator while he was in the open. But then again its a law enforcement issue or at least that was the previous administrations view. We can go back and forth all night with this but to be honest I have gotten serious about politics only after we went to war in Iraq. I can't speak about things during Clinton's presidency...hell I didn't even vote for him. So I won't comment on how well or how poorly he handled terrorism. What I do know is this adminstration did ZERO about it up until 9/11. Nothing. The 9/11 Commision clearly laid that out. And I'm supposed to feel like Bush is some hero or something. Who wouldn't be tough on terror after 9/11? s***, even Ross Perot would be the anti-terror czar after 9/11 if he were president.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 11:48 PM) Whats worse, f***ing up a intelligence reports on something that might happen, or seeing Bin Laden in your gun scope and deciding not to do a f***ing thing. This is fun. HAHAHAHA! Read my previous post. They had the dude cornered and handed him over to the Afghan fighters to finish him off. Pathetic.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 11:42 PM) Well maybe if the president before bush actually had taken out Bin Laden when they sighted him with the Predator a few years before 9/11, maybe it wouldnt of happened. And this administration did an outstanding job when they had Bin Laden cornered. Kudos!

QUOTE(bmags @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 11:39 PM) i used to think this but then i got my head out of my ass and realised there is great stuff in every genre, even polka. Just look at the Go! Go! Sox song.