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QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 12:26 PM) If there is anything we can point to that is actually a significant data point here it is Carlos Quentin's production at home versus on the road. He has a .717 OPS at home versus a 1.004 OPS on the road. It's probably lower because Dunn has been booed a few times.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 12:18 PM) Not enough. The booing is clearly the reason the Sox stink at home. Our fans are terrible. So you also reject the null hypothesis?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 12:15 PM) The idea that players because they make lots of money, are somehow immune to embarrassment is laughable. Just because you can hit or throw a baseball well, doesn't mean you are superman. Not much of a retort to the facts I laid out in the previous post.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 11:46 AM) Who are these real, actual people making these claims that are now being called liars? "soldiers"!!!

Have a good one!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 11:22 AM) So the offense is worst at home, the pitching is worst at home, and it has nothing to do with the negatives that happen when the Sox are at home. Yeah. Your theory has too many holes. - Booing didn't start until June. - Only 2 players have been targeted by the booing, Rios and Dunn - Rios has better numbers at home than on the road - The pitching is worst at home even though pitchers aren't booed - The amount of booing is not even excessive. It happens a couple of ABs per week

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 11:18 AM) You honestly think that the booing and jeering has no effect on a player? When do fans boo the pitchers? I don't recall that being a problem yet the team ERA is almost a half run higher at home.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 11:12 AM) If you are going with even 5% of soldiers (using your million number) getting abuse upon return, that means 50,000 of them got it. Is 50,000 a large number? 1% would still be 10,000. Is that a large number? Hell in my opinion even one is too many. But that doesn't seem to be the point here at all. Apparently there is a comfort level for abuse of our veterans that people here are comfortable with so that it isn't an effective political statement. I'm thinking the number might be closer to 3-5 planes, if that. It still sucks but trying to paint with broad brushes is never a good idea.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 11:13 AM) Why not? How much abuse could you take at work? What abuse are you talking about? 40 seconds of booing per game? You are being ridiculous.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 11:09 AM) And their slides have accelerated as their treatment got worse. So who are you referring to? Alex Rios has a .678 OPS at home and a .484 OPS on the road. Is it just Dunn?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 11:09 AM) And their slides have accelerated as their treatment got worse. Seriously, tell me how you would handle a group of people yelling at you for your every screw up at worK? You're comparing a finance job to a professional athlete's? There's no reason to continue this conversation. SMH

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 11:07 AM) Trying to make the "suggestion" that the vast majority of people who said they experienced this, didn't actually experience it, is calling the vast majority of people who tell this story a liar. I know it sounds better to call it a "suggestion", but call a spade a spade at least. Ok so you're saying that of the million plus soldiers that returned home, a large number of them experienced this? How many? 90%? 95%?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 11:04 AM) The guys who are struggling the most also have played the worst, and are getting the harshest receptions. Their numbers are also worse at home. In case you haven't noticed, fans didn't start booing at the beginning of the season when these guys started off horribly. It takes time for the fans to turn against you. And thank goodness the players or management aren't using this lame ass excuse because I'd be livid if they did.

Even though it's been brought up multiple times, in other ways, I'll say it again. There's a difference between calling someone a liar and suggesting an exaggeration.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 10:54 AM) Why? You don't think you would do better at work in a hostile environment, do you? Hostile? You're completely exaggerating. When do the fans boo? After the 3rd strikeout by Adam Dunn? You make it seem as if the fans are booing from the 1st pitch all the way until the last out.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 10:51 AM) They are better at home than they are on the road. Next question. Sorry but your premise that the Sox might be playing poorly because the fans are booing is laughable.

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 10:44 AM) ...no. Balta isn't saying anything about soldiers lying. He's saying that some people take the relatively few stories that soldiers have of these incidents like spitting and try to pass it off as a widespread phenomenon. Indeed. And judging by the duration of that war, there must have been over a million soldiers that we sent to Vietnam. How many return plane trips could there have been for the soldiers? Tens of thousands? How many incidents were there where the public spit on the soldiers? 5? 10?

QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 10:41 AM) LOL at this thread. Booing is causing the team to stink. Explain the Cubs then. All cheers...no wins.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 10:37 AM) Ugh, I f***ing hate people who say this s***. "OMG you don't think the Sox can win!? HATERZ NON BELIEVERZZZ!!!" Of course I want to see the Sox win, but at the same time I'm a realist and when I look at this team, how theyve played up to this point, and their tendencies to s*** their pants when they reach .500, yea I'm going to say that I don't think this team will win the division, or even get in first place at some point. So you're saying you're not a big fan of Cub-like eternal optimism?

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QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 10:04 AM) Comment, yes, but sarcastic rhetorical questions really aren't commentary. We're talking about twitter here. Not much space to get overly analytical.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 09:54 AM) Exactly. Oney's a turd, of course, but Valentine was the original turd. So after spending the last 4 months trashing this team and it's manager you have a problem with this incredibly tame comment made by a sportscaster?

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 09:51 AM) Is it unusually disrespectful for a sportscaster though? No

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 09:49 AM) "Who's running that team?" Come on, that's just disrespectful. Had he said "Ozzie Guillen isn't doing a great job with that roster" then there's nil issue. There's no reason for Oney to attempt to blow it up even more than what it is.