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QUOTE (Texsox @ May 6, 2008 -> 02:57 PM) Again it is a different environment -- REPORTERS ARE THERE! Reporters are there, out in the open. They even dress differently then the players so the players can tell the difference. This is not their bathroom at home. Why is that such a difficult concept for people to get? The reporters are there because MLB and the Sox WANT THEM TO BE THERE! They help the team to sell tickets, get people to watch the television, and helps the players to earn millions. It comes with the territory and the players have lived with it forever. This is like the morons that stand behind reporters on live feeds and jump up and down and flash signs. People just don't understand this Tex. They all think women shouldn't be allowed in the "locker room" nor to pursue their career goals, and that it's perfectly acceptable to subject any woman who's just- doing her job to blow up dolls and the like, showing a blatant disrespect for women and their comfort.

QUOTE (knightni @ May 6, 2008 -> 02:56 PM) It's not Sox fans, it's the national media and the American public. It's embarrassing to see. Like the Ligue boys, like Disco Demolition, like the Black Sox scandal, like the old neighborhood, like our foul-mouthed manager. More reason for the nation to look down their noses at the Sox and their fans. I'm glad to see that Knightni understands the big issue here. It's embarrassing.

QUOTE (kyyle23 @ May 6, 2008 -> 02:55 PM) I think about my seven year old every day, and this doesnt even register on her radar. I agree, this was childish, and should have been put away before the prying eyes of the female press saw it, but the level of outrage is off the charts. Where's the outrage? The level of outrage is not off the charts. Some people have pointed out that it's unprofessional and embarrassing for the franchise, others think it's just baseball players being baseball players. The argument lies in the spot where I'm just embarrassed. With the s*** that's been going on with this franchise, this was something it didn't need. I'm not outraged, but when I first brought up the subject way back on page 1, I did so because everyone thought it was funny and I thought it was lame and childish and embarrassing.

QUOTE (Texsox @ May 6, 2008 -> 02:46 PM) At this point, it is a complete mystery to me. As I said probably at the same time last year. Coaches should be changed during the off season. I dislike seeing shake ups like that in the middle of the season. We are probably stuck with him again, but please make a change next off season. It's just amazing how many hitters we have all whom cannot seem to fix their issues or bust out of slumps... the only place to look is Walker, who by the way was more than happy to come out and brag during the first two weeks of the season, but now we yet again have a team that can't put the bat on the ball and does nothing but try to hit homeruns. I cannot fathom how a change has not yet been made.

QUOTE (kyyle23 @ May 6, 2008 -> 02:49 PM) So we should call out every immature act from here on out? No Beer showers, no shaving cream pies to the face, no rookie hazing. This is all immature and unprofessional, and you wouldnt find this in a regular workplace, therefore it should never happen in baseball ever again. End of story. this whole argument is just ridiculous. As if any one of us was surprised that this sort of thing happens in a major league lockerroom, then one suntimes columnist suddenly takes offense to it and the Sox are now labeled as sexist a-holes who are losing fans. Cry me a river There's a difference between the actions you state above and a baseball bat in an inflatable vagina. Think about the children! Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children!

QUOTE (Texsox @ May 6, 2008 -> 02:40 PM) I am sitting here trying to understand the logic If you are a company where the public will never see your employees, blow dolls with bats in the butts is bad. If you are a company where this will be publicized all over the world, which spends millions marketing to families and young kids, it's ok? This may be the first time Sox fans have really surprised me. To defend that kind of image for our team just doesn't make sense. Tex. It's an argument we won't win. I gave up the fight this AM because it's obvious too many on this board just see it as antics and nothing worse. I'll on the other hand continue to be disappointed that this crap is happening with my favorite professional sports franchise. This looped with Ozzie's latest barrage have me very saddened.

Yet he continues to have a job. There's SOMETHING he's not doing. He needs to go. It's been the writing on the wall for the last few years (since mid 2006). Whatever he's doing isn't working. It's time for a change. Why is this organization once again hopelessly sticking by him?

The new freely downloadable album from NIN (at their website) is actually quite good. Nice to see it's an industrial creation. Pretty cool.

QUOTE (jackie hayes @ May 6, 2008 -> 11:39 AM) Rotoworld is saying that a Bulls D'Antoni hiring is "imminent", referring to an ESPN piece. I expected changes, but I was thinking more along the lines of personnel. I wasn't thinking they'd do a complete 180 in terms of the team philosophy. I have a hard time seeing how this will work with the Bulls roster, but it will be interesting, anyway. Well, that report says it's imminent, but on the radio they say the Bulls contract offer was such a lowball that D'Antoni very well could be headed to the Knicks.

Badger. It's because they are all power tripping and feel they are above the law. Just have to pray you don't get in their way sometimes.

QUOTE (Texsox @ May 6, 2008 -> 11:38 AM) So cut off access to the media. No interviews, stop advertising. Why not promote the image of the franchise as perverted guys f***ing sex dolls with objects. what could be wrong with that? If there really is nothing wrong with it, why not build an advertising campaign around it. Perhaps the official sex doll of the Sox? Bring a doll and have it autographed by a sox player? These are grown men, the face of an organization worth hundreds of millions of dollars. They are working for an organization that spends millions on advertising to promote an image. In a league that spends many more that to promote baseball as America's Sport. Fun for the whole family. If y'all can't see where this stunt is just plain wrong, I can only say that most of the adults on the board realize it and I suspect as y'all spend a few more years on this planet, your opinions will change. As usual, excellent post.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ May 6, 2008 -> 11:05 AM) It'd be like me calling you some limp wristed Clay Aiken fan because you care about the feelings of women with a simple prank in a profession where it's hardly unexpected. What're you talking about? Obviously this dude is just plain awesome! He likes football! And sorry, the yeehaw's wasn't what I think anyone who disagrees with me is like. It's what I think outsider's perceptions of Sox fans might become, which would group me into it.

QUOTE (Brian @ May 6, 2008 -> 10:17 AM) If Steve fails, I got next. I shall not fail us.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 6, 2008 -> 10:49 AM) So as not to offend anyone-equal opportunity slump buster How does a woman get any satisfaction out of that? I don't think this is equal opportunity. That's just a tranny trying to look like a guy. OBVIOUSLY.

QUOTE (Hawkfan @ May 6, 2008 -> 10:54 AM) and prefers christian bale instead of val kilmer in batman movies. There's nothing offensive about that...

YEEHAWW! Them Sox sure is funny! They likes ta cuss, they likes ta put bats 'n dolls. Gosh dern wimin in thir complainin'! Where's mah rifle? YEEHAWW!

QUOTE (Brian @ May 6, 2008 -> 10:19 AM) I heard that Foley took the Wolves job to stick around Chicago just in case something like this happened. I'd guess Foley returns. Yeah, good point. He was offered the Colorado job but declined so that seems like good reasoning.

QUOTE (juddling @ May 6, 2008 -> 10:23 AM) Mully and Handley are talking about this now on the Score. Couple of interesting point they brought up....first was that about 30 reporters saw the display but only 6 chose to write about it. Apparently not everyone thought it was such a big deal. Of course not. The issue that is if JUST ONE thinks it's a big deal then it's a big deal.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ May 6, 2008 -> 10:09 AM) If that happens on a mass-scale obviously its a problem. It'd be impossible to stop it, as anyone can sneak one and inflate it in a bathroom. You'd just have to assume it wouldn't be on ongoing problem involving thousands of people. Wow, so you actually admit that it could be a problem when the post before you said it won't.

QUOTE (YASNY @ May 6, 2008 -> 10:02 AM) Put yourself in this place ... You go pick up your morning paper or hear this on the radio driving your 7 year old kid to school and you hear ... Daddy, what's a blow up doll? What did they do with the bat? ... Sorry, but like Slezak said, the boys will be boys thing doesn't excuse this. It's classless, tasteless, vulgar. It's an embarrassment to the organization and I won't be the only Sox fan that finds this personally embarrasing. ding ding ding...

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:56 AM) Also, this in no way affects the family atmosphere at the Cell. One doll alone cannot do it. Unless these displays of affection somehow find their way out of the clubhouse and into the stands You mean by fans possibly sneaking blow up dolls into the stadium to blow up and display... something that's already been suggested in this very thread. It's going to happen.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ May 5, 2008 -> 10:34 PM) http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=ApQ....p&type=lgns This guy any good? He can't hurt. Seems to have performed well in an offensive league.

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ May 6, 2008 -> 06:49 AM) That would be AWESOME! Agreed.

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:39 AM) Blackhawks told Dan Kelly his services are no longer needed. Pat Foley back??? Check the Sun-Times. Either they are going to bring Foley back or Wiedeman will do both/be promoted to television.