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QUOTE (vandy125 @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:39 AM) I see the whole thing as kind of a frat type of incident, but one thing I wonder is the men's lockerroom of a baseball team really a reporter's workplace? If you are going to subject that to those types of considerations, then you need to do that for every place a reporter goes to get information on a story. A reporter in Iraq isn't going to think , "goodness, they really need to make this workplace better for me." Get over it. You are writing stories from a men's locker room. You should have some sort of understanding of what that environment is like. Mannnn, you did not just compare a baseball locker room to Iraq. There's so many reasons that's ridiculous.

QUOTE (Texsox @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:38 AM) If an employee of a company pulled a prank that was offensive to a large portion of their customers, they would be reprimanded, not defended. This is a workplace, no amount of money, fame, or power removes them from workplace laws. The $10,000,000 earning CEO of a major corporation can't put up porn in his office and say f*** the b****es that can't take a joke. And neither should professional athletes. Why is it too much to ask grown men to act like adults? Post of the millenium.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:33 AM) It's their locker room, if they want to do stupid s*** like this they should be able to. The bad judgement was not removing the dolls before the reporters were allowed in. No s*** Sherlock.

QUOTE (shipps @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:36 AM) I havent read through this whole thread because its such a stupid story.Its not far fetched to assume Swisher was probably behind all this,I hope that Iam not the only one who finds his whole act old right now.He is not even funny,his energy might be good for the clubhouse but he needs to tone it down a notch on the immaturity. Or start getting hits.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:28 AM) Manufactured outrage. Call it what you want. If the Yankees did this Steinbrenner would be outraged. But that's just a classy organization. We're the dirty Sox with our foul mouthed manager making a joke out of the franchise. The inmates are running the asylum.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ May 2, 2008 -> 10:05 PM) I said that a while back (but on on these boards). I think Jin either died as Sun left the island OR, and I think this is the case, he is still alive on the island and the monument Sun and hurley visited is her remembrance of him. This would make a lot of sense when you go way back and remember the first flashforward when Jack says they have to go back. There must be something to go back to.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:19 AM) But if you are thin-skinned enough to be offended by a blowup doll, you need to get anew line of work. WHAAAAAT? Yup, that sure was on the job posting on Monster. Qualifications: Must have 5-7 years of experience in professional reporting environment. Must display the ability to work in a team environment. Must be willing to work random hours. Must have no problem with blow up dolls in the work place. Ridiculous.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:14 AM) What are the ramifications, exactly? If the term 'fake outrage' were in the dictionary, it would be accompanied with "see: fake ramifications." Perhaps this is why I don't care. I don't quite see the people who are affected by this. The.....huindreds of women who may send threatening emails to the White Sox and boycott their product. Or the zero sponsors who will no longer associate themselves with the White Sox. I don't even find it funny, really. I just don't find it offensive, either. Then open your eyes. I'll save you from having to type the "Carol Slezak's just a b****" and "But she cried about Greg Olsen's rap song!" responses... Let's put those retorts in our back pocket and just talk about how stupid the White Sox are for allowing this to happen.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ May 6, 2008 -> 08:07 AM) I have played video games since pong, and have just about every single system since. I am a firm believer in that video games helps abstract thinking, spatial recognition, hand eye coordination, problem solve, and the ability to multitask. Specifically, I believe it has helped prepared me for my job as I have 7 to 8 windows open with different pieces of data, and the ability to absorb that data and find the needle in the haystack. The ability to multitask, the ability to process complex data sets, the ability to problem solve are all keys of my job. Now dont get me wrong, processing a good book for knowledge is great as well. I am an avvid reader as far as technical books to keep the skillset growing. But I believe that both video games and reading help me in my job. I have my young son who is under 4 playing skill games like Sonic the Hedgehog as well as Tetris to help him with shapes and spatial recognition. He of course is not playing GTAIV and all, but age appropriate games can assist a person in their learning path. That's a great post.

We're going to see Jerry Owens. He's going to lead off, he's going to play often. And that might not be a bad thing. the /Swisher means he subs in on any given day and gets his at bats CF Owens/Swisher SS Cabrera LF Quentin/Swisher DH Thome/Swisher 1B Konerko/Swisher RF Dye/Swisher C Pierzynski 3B Crede 2B the black hole that is Ramirez or Uribe

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ May 6, 2008 -> 08:57 AM) Are you serious with this? Explain to me how a woman reporter notices this display and feels harassed. I guarantee any woman in a position to cover a professional baseball team in a clubhouse knows what to expect. They've heard and seen a lot. It doesn't have to have the symbolism of a Van Gogh painting where everything has deep meaning. You know, where "the inflatable doll represents the repressive nature of females in society and the bats, in true male fashion, have violated the object and left her in a state of hopelessness" IT WAS A f***ING DOLL!!!! I only wish it had someones face taped to it so atleast we'd have a fair argument. Your post is exactly what I have termed, "fake outrage." Are you REALLY embarrassed as a Sox fan? And talking about "demeaning women?" Cmon, now. Was your girlfriend over your shoulder when you wrote that? You don't have to impress anyone like those ESPN analysts who have to put on a fake face as not to have their email box full with messages. I like to believe I'm capable of understanding someone's position on issues such as this, whether I feel offended or not, but this is just too much. It's stories like this I hope people just continue bringing out blow-up dolls as only to further infuriate the supposedly offended mass of people. No, but I think that if my wife were a sports reporter, which I would be very proud of her to be, and that if that happened, she'd be incredibly uncomfortable... and that would piss me the f*** off. I am capable I guess of being human. My bust. A woman doesn't have to feel harassed for it to be harassment. Any sort of discomfort in the workplace shouldn't be tolerated. It's 2008, it's the USA. I guess I just respect women and see them as equals and hope for them to feel as comfortable as any man, no matter where they work. If you have a problem with me respecting women, fine, but to call it "fake outrage" calls into question my integrity. I think there's a few too many meathead kids on this board who just see this as funny and don't understand the ramifications of the Chicago White Sox acting like a bunch of sexually deprived teenagers.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ May 6, 2008 -> 08:53 AM) I could poll 100 guys and what one guy out of the hundred might be offended by blow up dolls. Your point? That one guy would deserve the right to be comfortable in his workplace like the other 99. I, myself, am not offended by them, but that doesn't make me ignorant to those that could be.

QUOTE (Tmar @ May 6, 2008 -> 08:38 AM) Amador Evangelista He'd help a lot tonight.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ May 6, 2008 -> 08:42 AM) If a guy was offended by that I would suggest they check in their man card. Brilliant argument.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 6, 2008 -> 08:42 AM) Here's an idea. How about the locker room should be a locker room, and keep ALL the press out of it? They want interviews, they can do them in a green room outside the locker room. The locker room should be a sanctuary of sorts. I don't think press should be in there at all, except maybe for the once-a-year champagne popping when they win a pennant. That's fine and dandy, unfortunately those aren't the rules in which the Sox decided to degrade any female reporter that day.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ May 6, 2008 -> 08:39 AM) Well are women allowed in your locker room at the heatlh club, no. I have a solution, kick the women out of the locker room if they are overly offended. This is a game the guys are playing. Lets not apply the same rules that Jimmy in his cube gets to the 15 million dollar a year guy who swings a bat at a ball. Dude it's completely different than that and I don't know why that's hard to understand. There isn't a national media following Jimmy in his cube, this is a baseball team that makes a lot of money because of the exposure provided by the media. During designated times, reporters are allowed to conduct interviews, and not allowing women in would be limiting their hireability as reporters when everything should be fair and equal. It's not like these sexed up female reporters are roaming the locker room looking for piles of cock, they are coming in to do their job to better their careers and to go home to their families. They needn't be subjected to blow up dolls at their place of work. Take a blow up doll into your workplace and stick some pens in it and see how long you last before your canned.

QUOTE (tonyho7476 @ May 6, 2008 -> 08:36 AM) this country is too politically correct...why are women in a male locker room? That doesn't seem appropriate to me. So women can't be sports reporters now? During DESIGNATED TIMES women of course should be allowed in because of their profession. If you want to stop that, that's discrimination. And I don't think I'm pushing it that perhaps a few male sports reporters might feel uncomfortable with it as well.

Blackburn (2-1, 3.54) vs. Floyd (2-1, 3.16) Alright, I haven't started one of these, so I'll be the team's slump busting blow up doll. Time to reverse a couple of streaks and come home swinging!

I think some people are taking this much lighter than it should be. This has already become national news on ESPN Radio. Whomever set up the blow up dolls with bats in their orifices knew that reporters and the like would see it. It's sexual harassment for any female reporter who was near the locker room. I don't care what anyone says, women are allowed in the locker room at designated times, and that's demeaning. It's childish, it's embarrassing as a Sox fan, it's not funny in my opinion. Why don't they grow the f*** up? What has the amazing double stuffed quad penetrated doll resulted in? 3 runs over 18 innings. Jerry Reinsdorf should be embarrassed as should anyone who ever wore a Sox jersey. With Ozzie's rant, and now this, it's unacceptable. That's just my $.02.

QUOTE (frankie5angels @ May 5, 2008 -> 03:53 PM) From another site I saw this lineup posted. I would still like to see Thome moved down. Sox: Cabrera SS Quentin LF Thome DH Konerko 1B Dye RF Swisher CF Crede 3B Uribe 2B Hall C Swisher needs this.

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I'd be interested. I'd assume wives could join to watch the game and attend the patio party, correct, or is it guy's day out?

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ May 5, 2008 -> 02:42 PM) ewww. Hilarious.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 5, 2008 -> 02:41 PM) Maybe I see things differently, but the Chicago media is very soft on the White Sox. Heck, they were absolutely brutal last year, and there was hardly anyone claiming KW or Ozzie should have lost their job. The Cubs are criticized much more heavily. The other day, Piniella received tons of criticism for not replacing Soriano in LF. Does Ozzie really want to get the spotlight on his managerial decisions. He's made some brutal decisions in the last week, starting with the BA squeeze attempt. Gibbons has managed circles around Ozzie this series. How easy can Ozzie make it for him by never have a PH for one of our batters. Gibbons has been going lefty/lefty righty/righty in the 8th and 9th innings. ^^^ Ozzie needs to grow up. I start to wonder what he thinks he's doing other than digging his own grave. The team is loaded with "grinders," and players Ozzie loves, but we aren't winning anyway. If it weren't for an awful start by the Tigers, the Sox would really be in big trouble.

Ozzie was funny when his team was winning. I like him. But this isn't the first time he's gone after the fans... you know, those folks who pay his salary. I'm over it. I'm sick of his bulls***. You ask how many "championships" you have to win before we give you a break? How about more than one? How about MAKING THE PLAYOFFS again before you f***ing spout off like a little child. Don't compare yourself nor the team to the Cubs. The Cubs glorify losing, do you WANT that? Do you want your fans to not care whether you win or lose? You are under a more critical scope because people look at you as a real organization. If the Yankees start poorly, even with 27 some odd championships, guess what, people get on them, and a lot worse. One championship was nice, it was great. But since then the team has been on a downward spiral that it's fans are fearful will return. You're 14-15. I don't understand what you expect? Are we supposed to be excited about this? The team is still feast or famine. Why does Ozzie care so much about the Cubs?