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I see no reason why this price would be any less or different today after Jimmy won a gold medal and started the All Star Game. If the Celtics are trolling for a ripoff, they're in the wrong place.

When the Bulls and Celtics talked Butler last summer, there was organizational disharmony between Chicago’s four primary decision-makers (owner Jerry Reinsdorf, president Michael Reinsdorf, general manager Gar Forman, and vice president of basketball operations John Paxson). Not all of them were committed to rebuilding; according to a league front-office executive, Paxson “sees the writing on the wall,” whereas Forman is comfortable with the status quo, while ownership is not amenable to any potential trades. https://theringer.com/understanding-the-nba...c435#.54mu43ael Here's the deal. Gar has a job for life - just read that Cowley article. Michael Reinsdorf cares more about lining pockets than winning titles, so as long as the UC is selling out and the Bulls are under the cap, he'll be happy. We're f***ed.

NOLA wins

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 22, 2017 -> 10:20 AM) Hard to blame losing on guys not playing. If Cousins was so freaking great, they would win more than 28 games a year. You were popping off about rheir upside a couple of days ago. Now they will have perhaps 2 lottery picks this draft, and will most likely be one of the favorites to land the top pick for years to come. Maybe the next Michael or LeBron guys that can win more than 30 games with nothingelse will be available then. Think of the upside. Whose upside was I popping off about a couple of days ago? I'm not following your comment. I was not popping off about the Kings' upside. I believe I stated that the Bucks and the Nuggets had a ton of upside.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 22, 2017 -> 10:02 AM) He has also missed time and it has not been 6 and a half ears of 30 wins being better than normal. They weren't going to win with him. That doesn't excuse the paltry return. But it was time for him to go. Locking into him for 5 or 6 more years at 40 million per would not have made them a contender. The only thing that will is getting g incredibly lucky. So AD also gets a pass because he's made of glass?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 22, 2017 -> 09:24 AM) Seems hard to believe they can improve upon the 157 games under .500 they have been since drafting Cousins. But I will go with it is possible. I think they were shortchanged in the trade, they should have received more, but the reality was he had to go. They weren't going to win with him, and they will suck worse without him, but they aren't even mediocre with him, so it really isn't that huge of a deal. The Pelicans have had one season better than 34 wins since Anthony Davis was drafted. I think you're looking at Cousins being the reason for the Kings being bad instead of looking at the rest of the roster. Since drafting Anthony Davis, the Pelicans have gone 159-226 (41.3%). If you remove the two outlier seasons, it goes down to 39.3%. Does anyone blame that all on AD, or does he get a free pass? He's had a much better cast around him the last three years than Cousins has ever had as well. Cousins gets some technicals so he gets a bad rap. If you isolate every stud who's been stuck on a bad team and blame them, then I guess that's just how you're going to be.

QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Feb 22, 2017 -> 09:06 AM) The Boston Celtics' desire to hold onto Jae Crowder may be the "main sticking point" in a potential Jimmy Butler trade with the Chicago Bulls, according to NBA.com's David Aldridge. During an NBATV interview Tuesday, Aldridge said Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge "does not want to give up Jae Crowder." "That's I think the main sticking point there is that he just does not want to give up Jae Crowder in the deal," Aldridge said. "And that's the guy that Chicago's insisting on right now in any package for Jimmy Butler." Crowder has been a stud, but if they got Jimmy it's not like he'd get a ton of minutes. I doubt this report is true. I assume the issue is how many 1st rounders the Bulls get and the inclusion of Brown. Crowder's 27 soon and would never be a reason a Jimmy deal did not go down.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 22, 2017 -> 07:07 AM) They were f***ed either way. This probably gets them closer to actually selecting first in the next few years. But as long as their owner is involved in basketball decisions, they are going to have to hit the jackpot in the draft for a chance to be decent. Closer to selecting 1st so they can hope to wind up with someone half as good as DeMarcus Cousins?

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 21, 2017 -> 10:43 PM) Steve...if this euro guys you referenced in the prior post are legitimate players, I'd be more open to a deal involving Jaylen Brown, the right to swap with the Nets pick, and both of those euro players plus another future 1st. That said, If I ran the Bulls, the only way I'd make the deal is if we got Jaylen Brown, the right to swap with the Nets, and the Nets future pick. To be honest, I'd probably also want one of the euro guys. I think that is a legitimately fair price for Butler. Everything else I've seen, if I were Ainge, I'd have made those deals in a heart beat. I was just pointing out the Kings are f***ed. They simply no longer exist.

QUOTE (Sonik22 @ Feb 21, 2017 -> 01:38 PM) On a side note: Is there a team in U.S. major sports in a worse position overall than the Brooklyn Nets? The Sacramento Kings

How about we trade Jimmy for Danny Ainge.

In recent memory, perhaps no team is more loaded in assets outside of their roster than the Boston Celtics. Before we even consider what they have in future drafts, don’t forget this team still has 2016 first-round picks Ante Zizic and Guerschon Yabusele overseas — Dancing Bear is one of the best nicknames ever, by the way. Both of those players have a chance to come over next year, too. This season, Yabusele is averaging 21.5 points, 9.5 boards, 2.1 assists, 1.0 blocks, 1.3 steals and 2.0 treys on 54.2 percent from the field and 68.9 percent from the line in China with the Shanghai Sharks. Meanwhile, Zizic is averaging 15.5 points, 7.1 boards, 1.0 assist, 1.1 blocks, 0.5 steals and 2.0 turnovers in 25.5 minutes per game in multiple high-end Euro leagues. Pretty solid. Yabusele projects as a wide-bodied, floor-spacing four with the ability to play the five, which makes him a great fit for the way NBA teams construct rosters now. Zizic is more of a typical five at 7'0", but you can never have enough decent centers, right? Just look at how many bigs have been overpaid in the past few years. When it comes to the upcoming drafts, Boston is completely stacked. They have what should be the No. 1 lottery position with the Nets unprotected pick in a pick swap (that means Brooklyn gets the Boston pick in the late first), they get the Nets pick unprotected in the 2018 draft, Boston also gets its own picks in the 2018 and 2019 drafts, a 2019 lottery-protected first round Clippers pick, and a top-eight protected Memphis pick in 2019. By the way, they got those picks in the fleecing Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett deal, the Memphis pick from the 2015 Jeff Green deal, and that Clippers pick is from 2016 draft night when they traded the No. 31 and 35 picks to get that upcoming selection. On top of those, Boston is stacked in the second round. Sparing you some protections here, here are their second-round assets: they have the 2017 second-round picks of the Wolves, Clippers and Cavs. They also have the second-round picks for the Pistons in 2019, and also in 2020 they have the Miami pick in the second round. Crazy. If the protections work out, that’s 13 picks in the next four years! Chicago is wisely waiting this out to see if Boston will budge and unload some of their picks. With all those draft picks, they almost have to make a move just because they only have 15 roster spots and some of those picks just won't have a spot. This should be fun.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 21, 2017 -> 12:46 PM) This guy. Earvin Magic Johnson ‏@MagicJohnson 31 Oct 2016 I'm impressed w/ the Chicago Bulls starting Rondo, Butler, Wade & MCW off the bench they have the 3rd best group of guards in the league... Well, Magic, come and get 'em!

In an effort to destroy the hopes of my fantasy team, the Nets have lowered the price on Brook Lopez. A deal literally anywhere else will deflate his insane usage rate. I would love to see him on the Bulls.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Feb 21, 2017 -> 11:33 AM) Did I say it would happen? Can you tell me what Rick Hahn is having for dinner next Thursday if you can tell the future? He will be eating the hearts of Nationals fans.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Feb 21, 2017 -> 11:28 AM) Definitely a number of eye-rolling moments on Walking Dead last night. I cannot believe people are still watching that show.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Feb 21, 2017 -> 10:06 AM) It would be great if the Pelicans took out the Warriors in the 1st round. Well that would never happen, but cool post anyway.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Feb 21, 2017 -> 09:46 AM) I was talking about the players, not management. Oh, got it.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 17, 2017 -> 08:14 AM) There should be a setting on your tv where you can enhance the vocals If he has "sound systems" then he has a problem with his ears or no clue on how to set them up.

Crashing was entertaining albeit completely familiar and unoriginal.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 21, 2017 -> 08:44 AM) i understand people wanting to trade Jimmy for picks, but I just dont want that. This front office doesnt deserve it, i dont want to see them f*** all of this up. I would rather they sit on their hands and the team crash spectacularly into the ground and miss the playoffs again, with a 1/4 filled UC with booing fans at the end of the season. I dont want Garpax "fixing" this team. I dont want them settling for a s***ty deal with Boston where they dont get that Nets pick, i dont want them making any high picks in the draft, i dont want them doing anything anymore. f*** them. Unless the Celtics back up the f***ing truck, I see no reason to be Jimmy-less. IF only our f***ing front office could get creative. There's no excuse as to why Cousins is on the Pelicans today without reports of a substantial, declined offer fromt eh Bulls. Also, had the Bulls had any brains in their heads, we'd have already guranteed the Kings first rounder this year and have a suddenly warm Ben McLemore on our roster for Pau Gasol from last year. Two pieces that could be dangled or used. But McLemore hits threes; who needs that? #firegarpax

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Feb 21, 2017 -> 08:44 AM) Crazy to think the 2012 Sacramento Kings had a young Whiteside, Thomas and Cousins and seeing what they turned into today. In my man J4L's word, could've had the NBA "shook" had they stayed together.(obviously not their choice in that) Oh, and that same year, OKC had a young Harden, Durant and Westbrook too. It was their choice. They wanted nothing to do with IT2 and they released Whiteside. LOL.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Feb 21, 2017 -> 08:33 AM) Over the past few days, Minnesota has expressed interest in Rose, Noah, Mirotic, and Snell. Obviously this means that they'll be dealing us Andrew Wiggins, Kris Dunn, and some picks for Jimmy. One can dream. Wiggins has gone meta the past month since LaVine went down.

QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Feb 21, 2017 -> 08:02 AM) he wants to swap rubio for drose and get him off the books Yeah, lines are indirectly being drawn. Rose is a nice contract to have fall off the books. Nothing more. Thibs is the man and the Bulls ran him out of town.

Thibs all bout dat D-Rose. According to Ian Begley of ESPN, the Wolves have inquired about the availability of Derrick Rose.