Soxman72

Agree completely. I also believe that the contract the Sox offered Machado would have been a great extension offer or an "avoid the player opting out" offer. That is an offer that would be easier to sell a player that you have built faith, trust, and loyalty with inside your organization. Trying to sell a player to come to your organization with all those incentives and non guaranteed money has to be extremely difficult with a low success rate.

Yes, Nightengale, live this morning on MLB Network, said that the Sox are OUT on Harper and that the team has not spoken to Boras or Harper since early December. Don't know why that matters, but okay...... Nightengale also did say that there was an incentive in the Sox contract about attendance. Also, agree, that tweet is spot on.

Listening to Levine defend the organization pissed me off even more this morning. Anyone that argues about the back end of Manny's 10 year deal is ignorant. Manny is not Cano or Pujols. He is a 26 year old in the prime of his career. Also, you sacrifice the back end of the contract to get the player, bad knees and all. The Giants are buried with bad contracts, but they won THREE World Series Championships. I think the Giants are okay with their current position and will dig out. Does it always work out, no, but the reward greatly outweighs the risk.

Yes, it was said somewhere today that Hahn heard the bad news from Lozano. Kenny saw it on Twitter just before getting the call from Rick.

If true and SD does land Harper, they are doing EXACTLY what the White Sox should have done. Good for them. If they do not win, they will blow it up, like they have done in the past, or hope the players opt out. Preller is a scumbag, but making some smart moves and making others look bad.

I take back all my previous posts about negotiating tactics and opinions. I caught up on everything, read the WSD blog, and the DeadSpin article. Lozano is scum and he is behind everything. This is a circus and not only has he caused a lot of it, but he has realized that his client is not going to get what was promised. He makes Ari Gold look like a choir boy. Just an example and I realize Ari is somewhat fantasy. That's how messed up he is. He beats fantasy characters. This thing is a media disaster and I can't wait to see how it ends up. I still believe the Sox are in it, just because so many teams appear to be not.

Bruce is BRUTAL right now on the Score. Train wreck.

And Heyman joining the party this week. Who haven't we heard from yet?

Possibly, depending on what Machado signs for. Thome has been on MLBN multiple times in the last month and he threw a couple hints out about both. I don't think it happens, but whatever team lands Machado, the "both" dream will be alive and discussed at nausea.

We are going to have to do this all over again with Harper..........

To build on that, when did all this start? Monday. Very few leaks and info before then. Since, chaos. This is the agent trying to get more money. Reputable people heard "the end was near"this past weekend and then, bam, Monday happens. I believe the Passan and Gomez tweets. Agent tried to get more money, the Sox went nuts, and started leaking lower numbers to try and secure their current bid. Agent is now trying to save face. That's my opinion and sticking with it.

If you are a MLB player who likes to have "fun" on the road, do you really want your brother in law around 24/7? Don't know if Manny is that kind of guy, but just thought it interesting.

Agreed. Andujar, if traded, projects AL because of his defense and possible future DH/1B status. Senzel makes a lot of sense for San Diego, imo.

I did, but I don't buy it. Why would the Indians do a three way with the Yankees? Take the risk of facing Kluber in the playoffs? I don't think so. The Cincinnati and NL landing spots are much more believable.

Keep trying......