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Devers + Groome would be interesting. It's too bad Price's injury didn't come to light a few months ago -- we probably could have gotten even more for Sale.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 1, 2017 -> 01:14 PM) This makes it sound again like the deals that fell apart were NOT a Q deal. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/02/al-c...medium=facebook [/i] Sounds that way, though I imagine Hahn would go out of his way to avoid admitting that a deal was in place for any particular player.

Risky play this year.

The prices for the Cubs game are insane.

QUOTE (kwill @ Feb 28, 2017 -> 01:23 AM) I am actually more interested in Lopez's start than Kopech. For some reason, I am rooting the most for him to succeed as a starter. This early in ST, he won't go for more than an inning or two anyway. Not much different from a relief appearance.

"Dead arm" is often a precursor to a more serious diagnosis.

If the Sox want Severino for Robertson, I'm sort of surprised a deal isn't done yet. Seems like a reasonable deal for WAS, even w/o kicking in any money.

I could see BOS being interested in Frazier, but not for Devers.

Bregman put up 1.8 WAR and 1.0 fWAR in 1/3 of a season last year at age 22. He's under team control for six more years. I can certainly see why HOU wouldn't trade him for Q straight up.

I'm a bit surprised. We weren't any good in the first place.

Whether guys like Moncada are a hit or not, we still need to do a better job in the draft (and development), especially position players. Otherwise, we're right back where we were this year -- with a few really valuable pieces but not much beyond that to build a real team.

I'd take that deal too. Fedde is the Nats' #2 prospect at this point and #75 overall. Voth is their #6 and Severino their #11. Not a bad return for Robertson.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 01:05 PM) Stolen from the minor league catch-all thread: Chris Cotillo @ChrisCotillo now MLB awards Cardinals' two top picks (no. 56 and no. 75) in 2017 draft to Astros. Cardinals will pay $2M fine to Houston. With the additional picks, maybe the Astros would be more willing to match our request in a deal? Anyone want to hack our databases for 2 draft picks and $2 million? I'd take that trade....

QUOTE (Footlongcomiskeydog @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 02:49 PM) I guess so. He is definitely trending in the wrong direction. It is not a good thing when a top 10 draft pick from 2 years ago goes spiraling down the rankings. And when the guy picked one spot ahead of him is #1 in the rankings. Better than one spot behind, I suppose.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 01:59 PM) Yea none of that changes my mind about the Lopez snub, or really the idiotic rationale behind the Lopez snub. The Kopech and Moncada rankings are fine, just a little unconventional. Anyone want to keep calling Rafael Dever a "throw-in" to the Sale deal? Sure seems to me like Hahn should've fought harder for him. Hahn can "fight harder" all he likes. BOS wasn't throwing in a third top-20 level prospect.

These prospect rankings can also be pretty prone to group think. Nothing wrong with another perspective, even if Law is higher or lower on some guys than the "consensus."

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 11:11 AM) Even if he does feel that way its pretty ignorant to think relievers, especially after what we saw last postseason and the deadline, are still this inferior member of the team. To have this blanket rule that "relievers cant be in the top 100" makes him seem out of touch with today's game, or more importantly tomorrow's game. It's not that relievers are inferior, they're just really hard to project. Since you bring up Cleveland, look at Andrew Miller. Failed starter who found bullpen success in his late 20s.

Braves might very well see him as a headline piece, given his upside. Probably not a good value for the Sox, given the risk (and their troubles developing hitters).

Maitan might pose a challenge to value in trade talks -- big upside, but also big risk and a long time until you see any payoff. I'd love him as a third piece. As a second piece, that's a little risky.

If you're planning on keeping Q all along, it would be pretty silly to dangle him for months and potentially hurt the relationship.

SoxFest would be a pretty silly deadline. The teams we're negotiating with don't give a crap about SoxFest.

Yeah, I'm hoping NYY or LAD are back in play at the trade deadline. LAD has a slew of starting pitching but also a lot of question marks. It's no huge surprise that BOS and WAS are the two teams to really pay up at this point. Prying top prospects out of small market teams who aren't even sure-fire contenders is a tough climb.

Pretty much everyone left are small market franchises reluctant to trade away a bunch of prospects -- HOU, PIT, COL, ATL. And HOU is really the only immediate contender in that group. Perhaps that changes at the trade deadline with injuries, slumps, etc. Or a team like HOU might realize they need a SP after all.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 24, 2017 -> 12:01 PM) The fact that the Pirates seem to want to include him big time vs. Bell and Meadows should really tell you something. If they were that confident that he would pan out there is no way they would trade him when he could be under cheap control for years. That's really the problem with any prospect trade. Teams generally know their own prospects pretty well. I forget where, but there was a column a month or two back (probably right after the Sale/Eaton deals) comparing top prospects who were traded and those who weren't. The former didn't fair nearly as well in the long run, as you'd probably expect. There are obviously exceptions. Teams can certainly give up a young guy they really like if the return is worth it.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 07:04 PM) We have a very good idea what offers Hahn has on the table, especially from the Astros. Not really. Even if you try to extrapolate, half these reports are bs anyway.