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My best re-sell ever was when the Red Sox were at Wrigley ~ 5 years ago, got through the day they went on sale, bought 6 upper deck reserves for around $100 total, turned around and sold them for $200/ticket. That was a nice return... The Yankee tickets will be the ones in most demand.

QUOTE (WHITESOXRANDY @ Jan 12, 2011 -> 01:34 PM) Is he gonna knock in 35 homers a year for the last 10 years for the Sox this year? What does that have to do with anything? Are you seriously suggesting that it's unreasonable to expect 35+ HR's from Dunn this year? Vlad will be 36 this year. He's the bigger risk, let alone over the next 4 years that we'll have Dunn still in his prime.

QUOTE (WHITESOXRANDY @ Jan 12, 2011 -> 01:26 PM) And, 38 -40 homers is a lot but it isn't 45-55. I think you need to recalibrate your expectations for the PED-testing era -- not many breaking the 35 HR mark. Last year's HR leaders: Bautista - 54 Pujols - 42 Konerko - 39 Dunn - 38 Cabrera - 38 Votto - 37 And Vlad is 5 years older with an injury history, btw.

QUOTE (WHITESOXRANDY @ Jan 9, 2011 -> 11:56 PM) Exactly. And, that's for a guy that can't play a position and has to DH. How in the world is that worth $ 56 mil. over 4 years? This is the list of things that he does well - 40 hrs. and lots of walks. The list of what this guy can't do on a baseball field is a long long list. I think he'll be a pretty good DH but the Sox way overpaid for ths guy. I might have agreed with you 5 years ago, but reliable 40 HR guys don't grow on trees anymore.

They're obviously all out if their careers ended today. Konerko or Ordonez could make it interesting with a strong late-career surge (which are an increasing rarity with PED testing), say 3+ more productive seasons.

Is Konerko a HOF'er? He needs at least a few more strong seasons, but he's currently: 365 HRs, 1861 hits, 1156 RBIs, .280 avg Or how about... Ordonez -- 289 HRs, 2072 hits, 1204 RBIs, .312 avg Carlos Lee -- 331 HRs, 1967 hits, 1192 RBIs, .287 avg

QUOTE (PlunketChris @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 03:45 PM) I could see this happening on the last day of the season, since I imagine that'll be about where they both land. If they each stay on their typical pace, #400's could be pretty close to each other, either end of 2011 or early 2012.

While we're talking about Dunn, Dunn is 46 HR away from #400, Konerko is 35 HR away. Maybe we'll see back-to-back #400's...

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 12:22 PM) The only thing that's relatively inconsistent is the average. Yep, although even that is within a 33-point range over 7 years (albeit a mediocre range).

A thread about "realistic expectations" for Dunn is pretty funny. He's arguably the most consistent player in all of baseball. It's almost freakish, really: 2004 - 46 HR, 102 RBI, .266 avg 2005 - 40 HR, 101 RBI, .247 avg 2006 - 40 HR, 92 RBI, .234 avg 2007 - 40 HR, 106 RBI, .264 avg 2008 - 40 HR, 100 RBI, .236 avg 2009 - 38 HR, 105 RBI, .267 avg 2010 - 38 HR, 103 RBI, .260 avg So let's see, I'll go out on a big limb for 2011: 40 HRs, 100 RBIs, .250 avg, .900 ops, 190 K's.

Garza turned in 3 straight years in the AL East with ERA's under 4.00. He could do really well in the NL.

Thomas is a sure fire HOF'er, and it will happen within the first couple ballots, but I'm not sure about the very first time. While he wasn't hugely popular, if voters are going to keep penalizing players linked to steroids, maybe they'll be even quicker to vote for Thomas. I would bet good money that Thomas gets in before Bonds, Clemens, Sosa, Palmeiro, or McGwire. Edgar also isn't a great comparison, Thomas has 200 more hits, 200 more HR's, 450 more RBI's, and 2 MVP awards.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jan 5, 2011 -> 01:34 PM) Exactly. Too bad you just get hindsight arguments all the time on here. JR is quoted on the club saying trading Hudson was "a no-brainer". So to call the trade a reason to fire KW just looks misinformed on a few different levels. +1 It's also funny that the original article criticizes Washington for losing both Jackson and Dunn and ending up with a couple draft picks instead. Well, we're in the exact opposite position -- we got both Jackson and Dunn, and gave up a draft pick to do it (we would have lost Hudson anyway if the Jackson-Dunn trade went through). If Washington was foolish for losing both players, it sure seems like we're the beneficiary in the end. Sure, we could have had Dunn instead of Jackson for a few months last year (not sure that would have gotten us any extra wins since Jackson pitched well), and now we have both for all of next year.

QUOTE (Elgin Slim @ Jan 5, 2011 -> 09:00 AM) Next Question: Did KW vastly overpay for Jackson, given that he got screwed by Rizzo who backed out of trading him Dunn? If so, what would the market bear for Jackson if we traded him today? Would his price be the same as the Sox paid because that he is still just 27, has wicked stuff, and if some pitching coach could unlock him he could still be an ace? Or would his price be a couple of low level prospects? Do you think that Jackson is what his career has suggested(a #4-5 pitcher) or could he still be better? The reason why I ask is that if the Sox could trade Jackson to the Yankees for a trade deadline Hudson equivalent(such as a guy like Nova) and use that money to sign Soriano, What are they waiting for? My guess is that KW vastly overpaid. Well, Jackson has already lost some value because he's only under contract for another year, as opposed to the year and a half when we traded for him. We got the benefit of having him for last year's stretch run. We also paid a fair amount for that.

I doubt Soriano settles for an incentive-based deal, he's coming off two healthy seasons, right? Maybe he'd take a reasonable 1-year deal ($8M?) to close for a contender and try the FA market again next year, but still seems like a long shot.

Jenks questioned Ozzie's managing. A proportionate response would have been to question Jenks' pitching. Oney took it to another level by getting into personal issues, and it was completely uncalled for, IMO.

The reports on these numbers (Cubs, White Sox, etc) are a little strange. Not really buying it. If he took $1.5M from the Cubs, I'm guessing that if there was a Sox offer for $3.5M, it was pulled once Crain signed.

The only thing I can see is if the Yankees miss on Lee and get desperate.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 03:28 PM) Whatever happened to Cowley's claim Konerko needed at least $15 million a year? I'm sure Konerko was asking for it, just like Dunn wanted to start the bidding at $60M/4 years. Doesn't mean they'll get it.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 10:57 AM) You're astounded? I want JJ Putz as my damned closer. PK precluded that from happening. Stop acting like his kids would go hungry if he took 3/$30. If someone was going to need to take a $$$ hit to bring Putz back, why does that fall on Konerko? If it's just about who has the most money to afford the hit, then why wasn't it on Reinsdorf to suck up a couple extra million? His kids wouldn't go hungry. Seems pretty arbitrary (and unfair) to link Konerko to Putz like that. As it is, Konerko agreed to defer some $$$ (lowering the present value of his contract) to give the Sox more flexibility. I'm not sure you can really expect more than that.

Nothing wrong with trying to negotiate the best deal you can. I don't expect a player to cave and accept less than market any more than I'd expect the team to cave and overpay. In Paulie's case, this deal was likely the best he was going to get. Baltimore and Arizona weren't going to beat it. Maybe Texas does if they miss on Lee, but if Paulie waited for that, the Sox offer disappears.

Konerko still has to find a team willing to give him $15M/year. Easier said than done.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 01:15 PM) CSNChi_Beatnik Brett Ballantini Konerko/Landis shooting for the moon--$15 million. Goes against the grain of how PK spoke of his next gig (not nec. top $) at season's end. 3 minutes ago There's nothing wrong with having a high starting point, doesn't mean he'll get it (the bidding on Dunn was supposed to start at $60M over 4 years). I get the impression that the Sox offer will be the top $$$ offer, unless someone unexpected jumps into the bidding.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 12:53 PM) Dunn isn't a 1B though. They're the Orioles, who knows. One wouldn't think they'd want to offer a bunch of money to him but one wouldn't have figured the Tigers to throw mountains of cash at IRoid and the Venezuelan Piece of s*** several years ago either, and that kind of worked out for them... for a while. I know Dunn and Konerko are different players. But unless the O's value Konerko way more than Dunn (seems unlikely), the O's reported offer to Dunn tells me they're not throwing around the type of money they'd need to throw around to land a major free agent. The O's don't really worry me here.

QUOTE (chisox2334 @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 12:36 PM) I wonder if Baltimore Orioles offer was that big to Konerko I doubt it. The O's low-balled Dunn (reportedly $10-11M/year, I believe), so I doubt they're offering $15M/year to Konerko.