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QUOTE (SouthSide2004 @ May 20, 2017 -> 07:25 PM) I've seen most speculation say somewhere in the top 25. I heard on another site that Keith Law wouldn't have him in the Top 100.

I'm no expert, but given his contract, and his up/down performance, is Robertson really going to get the White Sox more than salary relief and maybe a mid level prospect? I don't doubt a team like Washington will trade for him, somebody will, but isn't he under contract for $10M this year this year and next season (obviously this season is probably down to $5M or so by the time July comes).....Is the contract not a big deal anymore given other contracts?

Is Robert a top 100 prospect? If so, where do you expect him to fall in those rankings?

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 15, 2017 -> 09:42 AM) He never actually said a deal was close with Washington. Hit and Run's twitter feed just put that in the tweet for some reason. I was basing my information from that feed; bad on the Score then if they are saying something he didn't say.

QUOTE (hi8is @ May 15, 2017 -> 12:14 AM) https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/05/east...p;post-id=92256 Yea... it's Levine. So, in a matter of a few days, Levine reports that a lead/head scout from Washington is in Chicago to scout David Robertson, and the presence of this scout indicated that a deal was close. Now, because the Red Sox and Nationals have made trades with the White Sox, these are the two teams that know each other best.... Seems like Levine likes to draw connections like these to report on possible trades.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ May 8, 2017 -> 09:04 AM) It would be our luck if he pitched like crap in this series. Does this scout only attend games when he's about to sign off/support a trade? Sounds like an odd linkage or grasping at something that may not be there (presently). Robertson will probably be traded over the next 2 months, but it's more likely to be in July still.

QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Feb 24, 2017 -> 07:12 PM) TOB isn't that fun, except when the names are announced. After that, it's pretty much uninteresting. Friday Fung though is fun I haven't heard if TOB is coming back, but it had become tired. I can almost guarantee, that if it did come back, half of the slots would be filled by Donald Trump, Republican positions and other politicians on that side of the aisle. That show, in particular, are overly sensitive to "Stick to Sports" and make a point of letting everyone know they hate Trump (Bernstein referred to him a fascist on back to back shows recently) and that race (that's more Goff thing, but Bernstein has evolved) is a factor in pretty much any topic.

QUOTE (credezcrew24 @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 03:14 PM) Robertson's value is at an all-time low. I'd prefer to see the White Sox risk holding him until the deadline. Is Nate Jones part of the future for the White Sox or would closing games enhance his value vs. being a premier setup man? Is there a legitimate difference between the two roles if he's dominant in one? Would moving Robertson enhance the value of Nate Jones?

QUOTE (Special K @ Feb 7, 2017 -> 09:32 PM) 2017 will, of course, be the year when the Team finally will over perform. Yep, watch them over perform, and still be under .500

I declare....2017, as the...Year of the White Sox!

As long as the rotation contains Quintana, and an improve Rodon, the White Sox are going to have to a pretty solid front-end of the rotation, and they are likely to add young talent in the majors as the season progresses. Offensively, this team is going to challenged; there just isn't much talent on this roster. This is probably a bottom 10 team currently, and may become bottom 5 if they move Quintana for minor league talent.

Even if there is interest in him, hard to believe teams would be willing to give up much more than a middling prospect.

QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Jan 28, 2017 -> 08:53 PM) Strong! Where do the White Sox rank overall? Are those team rankings out?

How many players on the White Sox are in Law's top 100? Does Callis have a top 100? Anyone concerned that the White Sox still don't have many positional players who are top prospects? I guess 2 in the top 100 isn't horrible, but are there others in the pipeline?

QUOTE (Special K @ Jan 20, 2017 -> 08:23 AM) Don't be so sure. Some GMs may be in the hot seat and have pressure to make the playoffs. If Pittsburgh is a fringe playoff team and McCutchen is having a bounceback season, Meadows may seem more expendable. Same goes for other teams and perhaps surprise suitors that are fringe playoff teams. Q, in all likelihood will continue to pitch very well. I wouldn't take the "best" offer just to take one. He's our last extremely valuable trade chip. We should get a top-tier position player prospect headliner. Nothing less. Is holding Quintana until the trading deadline (or next off-season) a gamble worth taking if his value is high right now? Any fear that he won't be as good on a team that is expected to bottom out over the next year? I'd hate to see the White Sox hold out for an A+ deal if an A deal could be had right now, only to see his value diminish over the next year (injury, subpar season, etc.).

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 15, 2017 -> 03:12 PM) Well no one has added his article so here. Aside from that blurb it's all stuff we've heard said before including Q's background and contract, that "insider" bit is the new part. It doesn't appear that Levine is even aware or "in the know" on whom the White Sox are in talks with other than re-reporting what has already been public knowledge. The only news in his column is that the White Sox want to move him before spring training (i.e. the White Sox have said there isn't any timetable in their pubic statements regarding any speculation).

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 13, 2016 -> 04:11 PM) The free agency cost of closers has skyrocketed, Robertson's deal does not seem as huge anymore 2 years/ $24 million is not awful for a decent closer His contract isn't an issue. Granted, he's not an elite closer, but given the contracts some have received, his contract is not likely to scare anyone away. At the same time, while some teams will probably be sniffing around him, I can't imagine the White Sox getting more than a middle of the road type prospect for him. If Nate Jones is part of the rebuilding project, or considered to be an asset to another team down the road, it's probably in their best interest to move Robertson this off-season, give Jones the closer job and see if his value can increase by the deadline when they can get a good prospect for him.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 07:25 PM) Jesse Rogers ‏@ESPNChiCubs 1m1 minute ago Jed Hoyer: “I don’t think we’re the Chicago team that’s going to be making headlines.” A sign that most believe the White Sox are likely to move Chris Sale in the near future. Interesting that Quintana's (and Rodon) name haven't come up much and it's all focused on Sale. If they end up making a great trade on Sale, why not go all the way here and commit to a full rebuild vs. something in the middle where they land 2-3 young players who could fill in positions offensively?

Even if the White Sox make what is considered to be a great deal for Chris Sale, it really sucks knowing that a primary reason for the trade is that the organization has been unable to find any positional talent of their through the draft which has led to the free agency moves that have mainly done little to nothing, to where we are now, where the only way to 'fix' the team is a half-way rebuild centered around their best player. Just sucks to be a Sox fan right now with the struggles of the front office to add to the talent of the rotation.

I'm not sure what they are going to do - if they even know. It's possible they could split the difference, moving Quintana for 2 or 3 prospects who could potentially speed up the rebuild process, and then add through free agency. I'm not sure a strategy/outcome like that would please anyone know though.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 21, 2016 -> 09:46 AM) I think it's clear that Robin Ventura will be relieved shortly after the season. Who will be the next manager? I still say Sandy Alomar. It's most like an ex-White Sox player, experience need not matter from their previous hires. I'm more interested in if they are hiring a metrics driven manager vs. an old-school manager. I'm not even sure how Robin fits into that.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 14, 2016 -> 06:14 PM) Doesn't really make sense for the Dodgers. They don't need another highly paid often injured sort of not bad outfielder What else would Milwaukee be getting for Braun? I thought (but could be mistaken) that he was still a fan favorite in Milwaukee and that the owner liked him. Puig is rumored to be a horrible clubhouse teammate as well. Unless the Brewers are saving significant money and/or receiving 1-2 good prospects, what is the upside to making this trade for them?

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Sep 5, 2016 -> 11:31 PM) Roughly $40M and we owe $20M. Seems unlikely he would retire and pass up on that much money, but you never know if he keeps performing like this. Does he have 2 years left after this season? Is that ~20M over 2 years or is another 1-2M still owed this season? Tough to see the White Sox releasing him, but if they're truly all in, this is the type of move a team would make to get from under a pitcher who is clearly pitching on borrowed time. I still think it's more likely he'll be the #5 starter, and we're hear all about the adjustments that were made next spring training, but I wouldn't rule out that the White Sox would release him.

How much is left on Shields deal after this season, and what do the White Sox owe?

If the only available candidates, should Ventura not be back, are ex-White Sox players, does replacing him matter?