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QUOTE (scenario @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 12:59 PM) I'm more concerned that Manny is ready to play against Boston. Not sure we need him against Cleveland. We shouldn't, but we can't take any game for granted. Cleveland has performed well against the White Sox, and that bullpen is a disaster waiting to happen in any game. We've had way too many problems against the bottom feeders (KC, Cleveland, and Baltimore specifically) to just assume a victory is a given.

QUOTE (hawksox13 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 12:20 PM) What is wrong with this team? Down four games with just 30 left to play. Where's the sense of urgency? Manny will be at the stadium four hours before the game starts. Get him in the damn lineup Ozzie. He has to go up to the plate and swing the bat a total of about 15 times and he's not playing the field. I think he's capable of doing that on four or five hours of sleep. Not to mention they are paying him $120,000 per game for the rest of the season. I feel like I'm listening to Lovie Smith after that Bears third preseason game. No sense of urgency at all! Have to agree. The games in late September won't matter if they won't the games now. I'm not concerned with him wearing down - he's a DH, and he's missed a large chunk of the season already. He can rest after the Sox finish their season.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 11:18 AM) Harrell or Torrse would work too. It would have to be one of those two, but given the state of the bullpen, wouldn't it make sense to just DL one of these guys so that they are eligible for the post season roster? I know we're in serious trouble if we have to use these guys in the October, but everyone is dropping like flys and we made just need arms.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 10:38 AM) He has to be on the roster as of today to be playoff eligible. Exactly, which means that somebody from the 25 man roster has to be put on the DL, sent back to the minors or waived? Can Kotsay be put on the DL for 1 day and brought back on September 1st when rosters expand?

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 07:55 AM) Peavy cleared up a spot on the 40-man, but they still need to make a move on the 25-man if Manny is to play today. Rosters expand tommorrow so then it won't matter. Rosters don't expand until September 1st, right, and don't the Sox need to have him on the roster for him to be part of a playoff roster?

Who's going away from the roster? Kotsay is making comments like he's secure, and Lillibridge is still needed (although they could play Teahan at 2B).

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Aug 29, 2010 -> 08:58 PM) He's the best hitter on the team. He'll bat third. I agree he can still hit, but I prefer him in the #5 spot. If he starts raking, then move him on up.

The Sox would owe the remaining salary for this season, but what about the deferred money? Also on the hook for that?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 29, 2010 -> 08:47 PM) Any chance he plays for us tomorrow? I sure hope so. The Sox need him for every game possible.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Aug 29, 2010 -> 08:40 PM) Why? He's not the Manny Ramirez of a few years ago. He's just back from the DL, and he hasn't had a great season. By no means am I against this move, I just don't see him displacing Rios and Konerko in the 3/4 spots.

1) Manny will NOT be batting 3rd or 4th for the White Sox. It will be 5th or 6th in the order. 2) I would expect Kotsay to be gone, maybe they hide on him on the DL. Lillibridge still is needed for backup IF and a pinch runner. 3) My guess is that this probably won't impact the Sox.. They have reverted back to a mediocre team, and will be 4 or 5 games back heading into September with 6 or 7 still remaining against Boston.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 25, 2010 -> 12:33 PM) ESPN reporting both put on the DL The season is clearly on life support. The offense and starting pitching are going to have to carry this team for the next 2 weeks while both are out. Hopefully, they are ready to come back after 15 days and are ready for the stretch, but if the Sox don't get 7 innings out of these guys consistently, the Sox are going to fall to the edges of playoff contention quickly.

The White Sox are probably looking at 3-3 in the next 6 games (2-1 vs Baltimore, 1-2 vs NY), but that's an optimistic viewpoint given the struggles of the bullpen to hold any lead, and the lack of clutch hitting.

Outside of the bullpen in the Detroit series (specifcally Putz), I don't think the White Sox played bad in that series. They had a 2-1 lead in the 9th inning on Sunday and a 7-5 lead in the 7th (and I believe 7-6 in the 8th). You can't ask for more than to have a lead in the late innings. If one of the best relievers on the club suddenly falls apart, that's just bad luck/timing.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 09:07 AM) I'm a huge KW supporter, but I will never understand what the f*** he was thinking here. The idea of using a bad offensive player as your primary DH is just so illogical. We've been basically a man down all season offensively and will continue to be down one if we make the postseason. The most irritating part is that DH should be the easiest spot in the lineup to fill with average production but KW couldn't find a single way to do that over the past 8-9 months. I never thought I'd say it, but if they can't land a bat via the waiver wire, do they consider Jermaine Dye for the last month of the year? My guess is that they won't because he hasn't played this year, and was brutal in the 2nd half of last season.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 12:28 PM) I wonder, if you're the Rays GM, and you're on the phone with a guy, and he makes a demand like that in a trade, how hard is it to respond respectfully, rather than bursting into laughter? Agree, the whole point that teams in contention make trades is to strengthen their team (at the expense of their minor league system in most cases), not create another significant hole.

QUOTE (SoxnGiants @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 11:26 AM) Sue seems like Washington is doing a ton of "negotiating" through the press (such as including Detroit in the latest rumor). I think he's a member of the Whitesox later today. Washington will budge. JimBowdenXMFOX Giants are NOT involved in Dunn....just CWS, TB and DET.....CWS inquired about Manny Ramirez as alternative...Dodgers seriously considering

Heyman on MLB Network still not completely ruling out Ramirez to the White Sox.

Hilarious. Heyman on MLB Network saying that the Sox now won't trade Jackson to Washington, and the Nationals are asking for Beckham or Alexi Ramirez instead.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 10:35 AM) WOw, for 2 reasons: 1) that would hve been a world shocker that Cowley was talking about. This also shows KW is looking for an IMPACT bat; whether it is lefty or righty.2) why in the HELL would the dodgers say no, I don't know the package of prospects but they are beyond broke and it would have been a perfect chance to get out under mannys contract. Finally, this shows we are going for it and money is not a worry. Rosenthal on MLB network, we may see a manny deal in august. Says he will clear waivers and dodgers want to see what he has when he gets back from the DL. Cowley is already saying that this was his "shocker" story, of which he know of no names at the time he was spreading this rumor.

jonmorosi #WhiteSox asked the #Dodgers about Manny -- and were rejected, sources tell FOXSports.com

Ken_Rosenthal Expect the unexpected today. Source says #Nationals getting late interest from new teams on Dunn - "longshots" being explored

jaysonst Now that #Rays have added bullpen arm (& payroll), looks unlikely they'll add bat today. Not pursuing any bat out there aggressively #trades

SI_JonHeyman easy prediction, chisox will get a hitter, 1 way or other, whether its dunn or someone else SI_JonHeyman chisox are acting like edwin jackson is likely staying now. but #nats may love him more

SI_JonHeyman todays early predictions: dunn (#chisox), bautista (giants), lilly (dodgers), berkman (yankees - that 1 is easy)