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QUOTE(daa84 @ Aug 5, 2007 -> 11:34 AM) that could be the lightest hitting outfield ever I was just about to say the same thing.... At least it isn't a TOTAL Sunday line-up..... That being said, lets kick some ass today!!

I'm in. Though every time I tell my father the 'FUSE' is lit...he responds with "You're lit". Hmmm...he might be right, but I am definately on board.

It is Dr. Dre. -Still D.R.E. off of the Chronic 2001 cd. I heard them play it for him last Monday night and loved it....

Scott Podsednik is an asshole.

Uribe is finicky about his bats?? They (along with his horrid swing) are his worst enemy most of the time! Interesting story about the trees though, these Japanese wasps sound pretty cool. It will be a bug war in the Ash forests of America...

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jul 8, 2007 -> 10:41 AM) Didnt contreras pitch opening day in 2006? No, it was Buehrle. Sunday night baseball against Cleveland. He didn't go long, however, because of the rain. B-Mac came in as the long reliever.

QUOTE(mmmmmbeeer @ Jul 8, 2007 -> 09:57 AM) Obviously the thought of resigning him did occur or they wouldn't have ever opened negotiations....I mean, unless you believe their intentions all along were to completely destroy his trade value and piss off a bunch of fans just so they could say "we tried". As I posted earlier, if you follow the sequence of events, there were obvious changes in direction on the part of KW over the course of the past year, but moreso over the past 2 weeks. Read the rest of the sentence to get the full idea of what I was saying. They seem to reopen negotiations, going against Kenny's "We don't negotiate during the season." Sox=Hero. Mark goes all the way down to 4/$56, big discount, Mark=Hero. Sox agree to money, but an NTC...NO WAY! Story over. I think they were HOPING that it would stay that way, because this way they can save face by using the NTC as their scapegoat while still trying to appease the fans/masses. But...*IF* what ESPN is reporting and MB/Berry went back to the table saying f*** the NTC and the Sox still balked...Sox=Deep-s***. See now MB comes across as the city-guy/man of the Sox, while the Sox come off as assholes. This whole thing was a WELL orchestrated PR stunt in an effort to turn the attention away from the disaster that has been happening on the field for the last few months. They almost, to their credit, pulled it off. However, I think its safe to say that Boyer and Reifert now have their hands full for quite a long time. While I am no conspiracy theorist, when it comes to the Sox, I don't doubt ANYTHING.

QUOTE(RME JICO @ Jul 8, 2007 -> 08:46 AM) Ok, where would you rate Buehrle as a pitcher since his first full year (2001)? What is your definition of elite? He might not meet the criteria for an "Ace" because he doesn't strike out a lot of batters. However, since 2001, he is 6th in wins, 15th in ERA, 5th in Complete Games, 2nd in Innings Pitched, and 6th in Shutouts with 1 no-hitter. When people rate pitchers over an era, Buerhle has arguably been one of the best pitchers in baseball since 2001. Your argument about 20 wins if funny. Is 20 some magical barrier? Him not being a 20 game winner makes the fact that he is 6th in wins since 2001 even stronger. That means he is very consistent. Loaiza won 20+ games for the Sox, I guess he is better than Buehrle. If you are not going to spend $14 million on quality starting pitching because you are rebuilding, then where are you spending it? The fastest way back to the top, even when rebuilding is by locking up your quality starters, and Buehrle would be one. You also say he is far from irreplaceable. So you are saying there are players available for $14 million that can take over his production? Please name those players that are available, because I could not find one that was even close in price or production. I couldn't agree with you more. Great post! I don't understand how you can't "rebuild" around a 28 year old work horse that has never spent any time on the DL, pitches 200+ innings/30+ starts a year, and other than the weird year last year will give you quality work every time. I don't think that is overvaluing anything, its knowing what you have to work with and wanting to keep it there. The wins thing with a pitcher is such a crock of s*** anyhow. Look at how many more wins he would have this year if this offense wasn't a gigantic piece of crap? The 2 hitter he threw against Toronto and lost 2-0 is one of them off my head. But yeah, he isn't s*** because he hasn't/can't win 20 games. Give me a f***ing break. $14 million a year for a player of his caliber is a bargain when there are s***tier guys out there getting $8-$10+ as third, fourth, and fifth starters. He might not be an "ace" as some feel obligated to label him. But in my mind, in a big game, if I am trotting any of these five out, it is him FIRST and foremost above any of the rest of them. While JG might be a good pitcher, he severely lacks something MB has demonstrated time and time again- Balls. What is also disheartening is the White Sox handling of this entire situation. It was all a charade, so that once again JR, KW, and co. can stand in the background, throw their hands up, and say "We tried." They never had any intention of resigning him. They wanted to try and stop the fan mutiny/bleeding caused by a horrendous month and a half of baseball being played. Problem is, that ploy has now backfired and they are in for one very large PR s***storm when the dust settles from all of this. I have been a partial season ticket holder for 5 years. While that isn't that big of a deal, I doubt I will be re-upping going into 2008. With the continued attitude and antiquated policy making of our front office, we will continue to sit on the backburner when it comes to any worthwhile free agents/current players that will bring a higher price tag. It is a shame that this organization chose to go back down a road they were beginning to silently redeem themselves for going down before.

Its time for Owens to go back to AAA. He needs WAY more time down there.

I have tickets for tomorrow.... I don't even want to go, despite the fact that it *might* be the last start for Mark. Today sucked....

Awesome! Its been a lot of fun to meet/talk to all of the Sox fans on here, even though some of them are excessively negative . Here's to the continued Soxcess!

Going for three in a row.... Here's to hoping this is NOT MB's last start in a Sox uniform..... Let's kick some ass....

Going for 2 in a row... Let's win today and take this f***ing series!!!

Nice W.... Need to get em tomorrow.....

Props to Danks, however. Short of that HR, he has pitched a hell of a ballgame. Lets hope we can score here and get him the W.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Jun 30, 2007 -> 06:33 PM) I would have rather seen him traded about two weeks ago, maybe earlier. Agreed.

My first ever game thread. I figured it couldn't possibly get worse, could it?? Give em hell Danks....bounce back from that s***ty showing last night!!

QUOTE(quickman @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 08:43 PM) this is typical whitesox bull. We overrate our players and the rest of baseball knows it. Its all posturing. Look at how "overrated" we made Brandon McCarthy seem last year? He was too good to trade to anyone based on all of the hyping up that the Sox did. Because of that hyping, we were able to take the best pitching prospect in the Rangers organization AND one of their better prospects that got some big league time at the end of last season. Exit polling would show that we did VERY well in that because we were able to make Texas "overrate" what B-Mac would bring. I don't think its bull. I think its good marketing. We aren't going to get s*** if we act like what we are looking to move is s***, are we?

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 09:20 PM) We got KC and then Baltimore coming up. There is a good chance now that we get close to .500 and KW gets enough false hope to become a buyer and trade away what young talent we have... Jesus Christ, how many times do we have to hear this sentiment? Its NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! KW is not a moron. f***ing drop it already. With that said. Great work this series. They actually played some pretty decent baseball, which makes it bearable to watch.

QUOTE(Straycats @ Jun 27, 2007 -> 06:38 AM) From the NY Post Asked yesterday about the lack of pop in the Yankees' lineup - the team began play ranked seventh in the AL in homers - Joe Torre indicated it's a concern that could be addressed through a trade. "We've lost a couple of first basemen this year, so that would be one area," Torre said. "You wouldn't replace any of the outfielders and you wouldn't replace any of the infielders or the catcher, so it's a matter of finding someone who can give you a little pop or would be a threat." Paul Konerko of the White Sox and Tampa Bay's Ty Wigginton are two of the more attractive possibilities at first base. f*** that, and f*** the Yankees. Its typical NY paper belief that they can have anyone. That is all this article is.

QUOTE(Alpha Dog @ Jun 27, 2007 -> 08:04 AM) Jose gone and Buehrle staying would be a great thing, both for the future of the rotation and PR-wise. It would, by far and away, be the best possible scenario/outcome of this whole thing. Lets hope KW can make it happen. We get two wins in a row AND we *may* be keeping our main guy...what a week!

Don't hate. We suck. Period.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 02:55 AM) Aaron Rowand would solve everything and you know it. After all, he IS the Jack Bauer/Chuck Norris of baseball, isn't he? His ass-pats have mystical powers to help hitters break slumps and become good again. Borrow just a small sample of his chew and you will drop runs off of your ERA. A simple hunting trip with him will make you remember how to be fundamentally sound, and not make stupid decisions. A-Row, yes, A-Row...he can do all of that....

QUOTE(greg775 @ Jun 23, 2007 -> 10:54 PM) Some people love Rowand. Get over it. Some people would like him back. Get over it. I get that they love him....I don't mind the guy myself.... But for f***s sake, his "grinderness' is not going to make the bullpen not blow games, its not going to make this offense hit, nor will it make this team fundamentally sound.... I am not saying I don't want him back, but he is FAR FROM THE CURE!!! The fact that people constantly fall back on the, "we need Aaron Rowand back" argument as an answer for the suckage we have seen in 2007 makes me ill. I am 100% positive that I am not the only one.

QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ Jun 23, 2007 -> 07:43 PM) A better argument might be that the Phils are at least fun to watch with him. The Sox are now unbearable without him. BTW, I wonder what Damaso's numbers are with the Pirates... Oh please....because the "immortal" Aaron Rowand would be the answer to all of the s*** that ails this team. Give me a f***ing break.... I am so sick and tired of people bringing up this same dumb ass argument, its not even funny.... Aaron Rowand is AVERAGE at best....get over it, he is gone!