southsider2k5

I wish I could say the same

lol, won't answer, you are really getting desperate here. I have said all along, that if you plans for being respectable were built on the backs of players who literally average missing half of every season, you can't then use them as an excuse when they are indeed missing for half of a season. But yes, if all three players had done something they had literally never done before in their careers and play healthy and productive full seasons, this team would have been better. And again, while you concentrate on something that had always happened to the bad side, you are full ignoring the three huge breakout seasons happening to the upside which were totally unpredictable, and weren't being planned on. So if Lee and Fedde had the seasons they have always had, and Crochet had the injury and effectiveness he had always had, would they still have been on a 90-100 loss pace? Oh right. This team is only here because of the aforementioned bad things that happened to it.

Yeah, and I know you have been mad lately, but here you go. Again.

So again you are back to trying to hold both positions that we weren't supposed to be this bad, but we were only this bad because of the injuries, even though the entire world knew injuries were a long part of all three of their histories, as well as bad performances by guys who are either regressing or not progressing, all while ignoring we also got crazy good production from guys that was 100% not expected such as Crochet, Feede, and Lee that should have more than balanced some of this out and thus returned us to just "bad", and things could have actually been way worse than they actually are? Even if the idea was that this was just going to be "bad" there still isn't the incentive to churn the roster to the extent it was. Bad teams are thinking of development and evaluation of kids too, and we haven't done that, except where we didn't have a choice.

Look if you are trying to convince me the Sox called up a 32/33 year old Rafael Ortega with his career major league OPS+ of 86 coming into this year because they thought he could be a trade piece I am 100% going to say there is no way on god's green earth that is true.

"We are scared to death of the first base profile" "Rightfully so" ?

The actions speak for themselves. A guy who knew this was going to happen, isn't reaching out to every 37 year old washed up utility player on the market to get them on to the roster for a couple of weeks. Someone who knew this was going to happen just let it play out.

Honestly, hearing the PR machine already in full tilt about this, this is probably another one of those moves to try to rush things, instead of taking the best guy for the future.

Exactly. I honestly think their actions tell me they knew they weren't going to be good, but maybe they could get to mediocre with some luck. They never imagined historically bad, which is why all of the freaking out through crazy roster moves and putting in people who had no business on a MLB roster, and dumping marginal prospects to do it. They were absolutely playing for today a good portion of the season.

This is 100% accurate, and it also goes to the idea that the Sox management didn't think they would be THIS bad, otherwise the panicky front office churning the roster wouldn't have been a thing.

Not as a #1 piece, but as of today the Sox have no real 40 homer potential kind of player in their system. Them getting a banger from the corner wouldn't be a bad thing. Both Vaughn and Sheets are probably not that long for the organization anyway. Heck Vaughn could be in DFA territory with his 2nd year of arb coming up if he has a bad 2nd half too.

I kind of wondered if they might be in a Moncada kind of situation where his debut went so badly that it took just enough shine off of him where Baltimore might reconsider him.

And you get yanked up and down a few times

History.

Yeah there is DE+ for David Ecksteins above replacement, and then xDE for expected David Ecksteins.

There was a whole mess of transactions that day so pick one.

I do feel like someone, at some point, said that we have more than are listed publicly in some of these departments.

"We are 40 games under .500 before the 4th of July what do we do?" "Quick someone call David Eckstein"

They are well on their way.

I mean Pedro make Bevington look appealing all around.

Terry Bevington #5.

I was going to say Gavin Sheets, but I didn't realize how much Elko had out performed Sheets at each level so far.

Too bad another Chicago team isn't using their reduced payroll space to acquire prospects for bad contracts...

Been saying that for years. If this was 1990, he is the #1 pick. His game was made for the last generation of NBA ball with back to the basket posts passes starting most offenses. Now I am really not sure how he fits in the game with his lack of athleticism and shooting ability beyond 10 feet.

Not sure why we haven't gone back. There was a good reason for it to be in June.